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Old 12th December 2005, 04:49 PM   #1
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Default Op Amp Upgrade In Audio Alchemy Ditb D/a

The Audio Alchemy DITB has OP275 Op Amp fitted as stock. What would be the most desirable upgrade of this Op Amp?

My power supply is not the Audio Alchemy wall wart but the upgraded Power Station 1 (PS1).

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Old 12th December 2005, 05:46 PM   #2
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Hi,

See:- http://www.1388.com/doctor/jonopinion/14022001/ for notes.


I considered buying one a while back but decided on tda1541a!

Never heard an analodue devices chip!


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Old 13th December 2005, 06:37 AM   #3
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Hi,

Thanks for your post. I've read in this Forum that replacing the OP-AMP in the Audio Alchemy DAC-in-the-box may provide quite a bit of a performance boost - hence my earlier post as to what would be the IDEAL Op-Amp in today's market?

Any reommendations will be most appreciated!

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Old 13th December 2005, 06:21 PM   #4
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Try the EL2244 op-amp from Elantec/Intersil USA. It's very musical sounding and perhaps better than op275. Good luck.
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Old 13th December 2005, 08:08 PM   #5
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Thanks! adinica

From your other posts, I find that you have preferred the EL2244 over OPA2134, 2132,2604, OP275 & NE5532.

I have a NAD C540 that uses OPA2604 & also a NAD C521BEE that uses the NE5532.

As for replacement of the OP275 in the Audio Alchemy DAC, can it be a simple Op-Amp replacement with the EL2244?

What about the NAD C521BEE with 5532?
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Old 14th December 2005, 11:54 PM   #6
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You can try changing it for opa2604, 2132 and 2134. Opa 275 is mono, so you need a brown dog adapter for this. Another upgrade is increasing the line voltage, I think I changed the default 5volts of the dac to 12volts, and it definitely give the sound more power and slam
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The OP275 is a very "Tube" like sounding opamp (by the way it's a dual opamp), little fat but ho so sweet, if you want that sweetness but with tones of detail and rock like solid bass and stunning dynamics, go for the AD825, they are smd singles but you can get them mounted, 2off on Brown Dog converter boards, well worth the trouble, the cheapest place I've found (send email) is http://www.rageaudio.com.au/
far cheaper than LC Audio or Soundlabs or anyone else I've come across.

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Old 15th December 2005, 06:48 AM   #8
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Hello DoHbert,

Thanks for your suggestions. As far as I recall, the supply inputs are +/- 12V since I use the upgraded power supply Model PS-1 of Audio Alchemy which is a +/- 15V @ 250mA.

I also replaced the voltage regulators (both 5V & 12V) to 1A TO220 versions.

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Old 22nd November 2006, 09:11 AM   #9
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Just got a BITB without power supply...so now I need to get or make one. In the attached info about modding it, he recommends changing the +/-5V regs for the analogue section to +/-12V regs. This will raise the voltage to the opamp and the analogue side of the dac chips. The dac chips then need heatsinks to help dissipate the extra heat.

What about this as an alternative?
Build an external regulated +/-12V supply.....optimised for the opamp.....then divert the supply to the opamp around the existing +/-5V regs. This way the opamp gets +/-12V and the dac get +/-5V.....and there are no heat issues or risk of damaging the dac chips.

Actually, the external power supply could be regulated at a higher voltage, which might be beneficial for the performance of the opamp.....maybe +/-15V.

Any comments or thoughts would be appreciated.
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Old 22nd November 2006, 05:39 PM   #10
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Fin - You have a good alternative option. Maybe the results would be interesting....

I have now been using my DITB with the higher voltage fed to the Op-amp & the analog side of the DAC chips for almost a year now and must report that the heat issues have been NO PROBLEM esp in a hot country like India where I am & throughout the Indian summers at ambient in-room temperatures over 38 deg C. Just make sure that the addt. heatsink (suggested in the mods) mounted on the DAC chips are there & glued well.

The sonic improvement of the DITB is astonshing........ to a point one really feels that such an inexpensive DAC can give such wonderful results......

The last upgrade I feel could be the Op-amp itself. My one came with OP-275. Any suggestions if the latest modern Op-amps substituted could yield better results would be much welcomed. There are a lot of Op-amp gurus on this forum who could shed their views & will be highly appreciated.


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