CS 8412 CP not obsolete

[jean-paul]

Yes, you read it correctly. I just had a call from my parts supplier that my CS8412's had arrived. When I asked for the datecode he carefully watched and said: 0237. His supplier had 269 pieces in stock in contrary to one month ago when price had risen to 42 Euros a piece and only 5 were left !!

It seems that the chip is in production again. Good news for builders of the Kusonoki style DAC's I guess. Unfortunately there is a minimum amount that has to be ordered.

If this isn't spamming ( !?!?! ) I can ask my parts supplier if he is willing to take orders from people from abroad.

[Elso Kwak]

Hi Jean-Paul,
May I ask who is your supplier in the Netherlands?

[jean-paul]

www.bergsoft.nl

Try E-mail them.

Just a translation for the non-Dutch speakers:

Bedrijfsnaam = Company name
Naam = Name ( Dhr. / Mvr. is Mr. / Ms. )
Onderwerp = Subject
Bericht = Message

Price will be known next monday. Promise is that it will be reasonable.

[tschrama]

Hi,

That's good news. I could use a couple of those if they aren't too expensive.

greetings,

Thijs

[Joseph Knecht]

ummmmm guys........ The CS8412 has be supersceded by the CS8414 which is a surface mount part. It is a better part ( and better sounding from the reports I have heard) and would be a better choice for new design. Also I don't see the CS8412 on the Cirrus website. Are you sure these are new parts?

http://www.cirrus.com/design/product...tail.cfm?d=162

Joe

[peranders]

Th major difference between CS8412 and CS8414 is the sampling frequency indication.

CS8412
48k 4%
44.1k 4%
32k 4%
48k 400ppm
44.1k 400 ppm
44.05k 400 ppm
32k 400 ppm

CS8414
Reserved
Reverved
96k 4%
88.2k 4%
48k 4%
44.1k 4%
32k 4%

If you take guess: What do I think of this change in frequency together with my beautiful and expensive screen printed front panel of my DAC? Not easy to uppgrade without total redoing the panel.

[tone]

tone_ne@hotmail.com

rgds,
tone

[peranders]

BTW: I have 2 chips ... together with a complete CS4328 DAC.

The fact that Cirrus has removed CS8412 is a strong indication of "obsolete", same phenomena as with my CS4328. One day it was gone and it was gone if you didn't want to 100k - 1M pcs.

[jean-paul]

The fact that Cirrus has removed CS8412 is a strong indication of "obsolete", same phenomena as with my CS4328.

Per, as I stated in my post they have arrived with new datecodes and ............. Please read my post again. As far as I know the chips are at least 1.5 years obsolete. Howcome they have 2002 datecodes ? I doublechecked this by calling the supllier as well as the distributor. It could be a rerun of Crystal because of demand !?!?

And the discussion about Dil/ SMD, 96 kHz/ 48 kHz or that the 8414 is better according to some people ( talk, talk ) is absolutely not relevant if you have a device that uses a 8412.Or if you want to build a Kusonoki style DAC and you absolutely despise SMD.
The report you hear from me that it may not be the best chip in the world but it certainly is a good one for building simple DAC's with very good results. It is also cheap compared to other products. By the way, which other products ?
Besides some Crystal and BB products there is nothing left for DIY.
Please see this link about 96 kHz and quality:

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.pl?f...ysect&session=

[peranders]

Originally posted by jean-paul
I doublechecked this by calling the supllier as well as the distributor. It could be a return of Crystal because of demand !?!?

I think always about the future. I don't make any designs with "suspected" parts. I want my designs to live for a while, especially if I make expensive pcb's. The fact that Cirrus has removed the datasheets is a strong indicator. Also 44/48 sampling frequency is the past (according to the market).

Originally posted by jean-paul
And the discussion about Dil/ SMD, 96 kHz/ 48 kHz or that the 8414 is better according to some people ( talk, talk )..

I stand a little aside in this debate. I think that CS8414 is more or less the chip except for the PLL. I think CS8412 is excellent for high expectations and CS8414 is not worse.

The DIY part, 50 mil pin spacing is not a problem to solder for most people but 0.65 mm is not so easy.