op amp cost - diyAudio
Go Back   Home > Forums > Source & Line > Digital Source

Digital Source Digital Players and Recorders: CD , SACD , Tape, Memory Card, etc.

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 25th September 2005, 01:03 PM   #1
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Portugal
Default op amp cost

Hi

How expensive are the op amps?

My SONY (cdp-312)CD player has two JRP 4556 op amps and I have found that one good replacement is AD 8610.

I would like to know from where I could get these op amps.
The reason why I'm asking the price is because my CD player is rather old and it may not make sense to spend too much money for tweaking it.

I like the sound of this CD player over my DVD,but few things are bothering me.There is less bass and sometimes the >S< sounds very irritating,overall I like the kind of "analogic" sound of this player.
One more question,do I need two single or two dual op amps?
__________________
xxx I should correct my spelling xxx
  Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2005, 01:42 PM   #2
diyAudio Member
 
jackinnj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Llanddewi Brefi, NJ
Newark Electronics charges $9.00 for the AD8610.
  Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2005, 01:47 PM   #3
jmateus is offline jmateus  United States
diyAudio Member
 
jmateus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: US, New Jersey
Default Opamp substitution

Hi

In fact the 4556 is an old opamp pratically obsolete by now.
It's a dual 741 (or similar) that doesn't rend justice to more
modern audio circuitry. Of course if you are to replace a dual
IC you must replace it with a compatible one that has at least the same physical configuration and electrical compatibility.

One good replacement opamp that you should consider is the
Burr Brown OPA2604 that has excelent distortion figure, low
noise and very high bandwith (20 Mhz) providing superior
performance in high end audio circuitry. Low noise FET input
and very high source impedance.
However I'm not sure if it is directly compatible with your 4556,
and that you have to check out.

The cost? Here in the States it costs $3.56 each, at Digi-Key,
http://www.digi-key.com.

Wheather you use this one or not, if you are to replace the
4556 you should replace by a high quality opamp, even the 5532
is better than that one even if you consider its age.
Good luck
__________________
JLH 2005, Cyrus and so on...
  Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2005, 02:05 PM   #4
jmateus is offline jmateus  United States
diyAudio Member
 
jmateus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: US, New Jersey
Default IC compatibility

Hello again

Afinal eles são absolutamente compativeis fisicamente!
Yes they are compatible, pin by pin. However we are talking
about the 4556AD/AM/AV, 8 pin DIP Ic, not the 4556 AL which
is a 8 pin in line package.
There is a significant difference in price between the OPA and
the AD, $3.56 to $9.00.......
__________________
JLH 2005, Cyrus and so on...
  Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2005, 02:15 PM   #5
anatech is offline anatech  Canada
diyAudio Moderator
 
anatech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Georgetown, On
Default Just a thought

4556 is normally used to drive headphones and has a higher output current rating than most op amps. Like 70 mA into 250 R loads (from the JRC datasheet). In signal applications you would see things like 4558, 4559, 4560.

If this is a servo or headphone amp part I'd just leave it if I were you. PM me and I'll sent you the PDF file. It's about 170KB, to big to post.

-Chris
  Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2005, 02:55 PM   #6
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Portugal
Big thanks for all the replys.

I must be loosing my sight,the op amp in my CD player is actually

4558
4482B
JRC

Not 4556 JRP like I stated.I'm embarrased

Does your advises aply to this op amp as well?

p.s. I'm sorry about this.
__________________
xxx I should correct my spelling xxx
  Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2005, 03:13 PM   #7
jmateus is offline jmateus  United States
diyAudio Member
 
jmateus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: US, New Jersey
Quáse a mesma coisa "se não há grão, levas feijão"...

As far as I´m concerned my post stands the same way for the
4558. As a matter of fact I was under the impression that you meant 4558 even though the 4556 is basicallly the same.
So my suggestion about the OPA2604 still stands.
There was one time that almost all the japanese companies
used the 4558 as "the" standard opamp for audio, including
Sony.
I own a CPD650 CD player (God bless it!) for a number of years
and this one is probably more recent than yours and being
so they used the 5532 almost exclusively.... and this one was
a Rolls Royce at the time.
Nowadays all these have been surperced and are almost obsolete.
Cheers
__________________
JLH 2005, Cyrus and so on...
  Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2005, 03:13 PM   #8
anatech is offline anatech  Canada
diyAudio Moderator
 
anatech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Georgetown, On
Hi pikkujöpö,
The 4558 has a slew rate of 1V/uS, pretty garden variety. Note that a "D" or "DD" suffex denotes quieter versions for audio use. It's a bipolar input device. Replace with a bipolar input part. NE5532 may work well here.

This is not an expensive op amp by any means.

-Chris
  Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2005, 03:25 PM   #9
anatech is offline anatech  Canada
diyAudio Moderator
 
anatech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Georgetown, On
Hi jmateus,
Please read my reply above. JRC4556 is a different animal to most and I think they still use it. Not the same as JRC4558 at all. I can send you the datasheet if you wish. SR=3V/uS GBP=8Mhz. The load is 150R (wrong key on my first post - oops).

Also, NE5532 sounds good still and is really inexpensive. A good first try, then to your suggestion if there is a difference. Also note that the OPA2604 is a FET input device (may or may not matter) and that the higher bandwidth may cause it to oscillate without additional bypassing. Depends on the circuit and layout.

-Chris
  Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2005, 03:54 PM   #10
diyAudio Member
 
demogorgon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Behind you.
Send a message via MSN to demogorgon
I threw out the output opamps in my fisher the other day, i think they were the same thats in yours, and put in some opa2134, they are better than the 2604, and not much more expencive.

the sound is incomparable.
a new realm of fidelity. worth every penny.

marius
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Best low cost BIB? Rick J. B. Full Range 32 1st October 2011 07:21 PM
Need for Low Cost RF MOS xitronics Parts 0 20th December 2006 01:45 PM
Hi-end low cost DAC audiodesign Parts 1 3rd October 2005 02:06 PM
low cost dac jaudio Digital Source 2 29th September 2005 02:55 PM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 08:26 AM.


vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright ©1999-2014 diyAudio

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2