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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Munich
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Hi,
because of a wrong regulator board in one of my analyzers, all op amps, BB DAC80 and ADC chips were running on +21/-19V for 15 minutes or so and everything still works. |
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: The Netherlands
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You'll have to put a higher voltage on them to find out because they still live
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if you run a sine wave through them, measure the output with a scope and turn up the voltage you'll start to see horrible distortions at some point (before they die, that is).
But then again, sometimes opamps do sound better (in my experience) when you turn up the voltage. Glue a small copper heatsink onto them with heat-transferring glue and they can stand much higher voltages.
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Sorry to be a jerk but this kinda question is why datasheets are created. OP-AMP datahsheets will always have a maximum supply voltage
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Netherlands
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Hmmmm,
My opamps are running at +/- 45V But haven't failed yet They're BB opamps as well (445), quite robust ones Bernard
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Hannover
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Stresses above those listed under “Absolute Maximum Ratings” MAY cause permanent damage to the device. Exposure to absolute maximum conditions for extended periods may affect device reliability.
The DAC80 is rated to +/-18V. If you exceeded this ratings the DAC may work correctly or not. No one can say this if you haven't measured all specs in the datasheet. Sometimes a degration and not a failure of the part occur if you exceed the absolute maximum ratings. Quote:
DESCRIPTION: The OPA445 is a monolithic operational amplifier capable of operation from power supplies up to ±45V and output currents of 15mA |
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I found some (6) BB DAC chips. In a dump. (Jean Paul: in Vlaardingen) Now, the question is, how can I use the D/A in a way that gives more than 12 bit sound ? Do you have a suggestion for me? Evidently I need a fan-out for each bit; and once I have that, it should be possible to go to 16 bits (don't need more than that, really). hope for some input! albert
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Munich
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If it is current out model, you could add fine adjustable current sources for the 4 MSBs ?
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So probablyI need an I/V conversion and a summing buffer in between. There have also been plans for a discrete DAC. I wonder how that worked out and how this fits in. albert
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Toronto Canada
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it seems rather like op amps "+ - 18 volts" being all the same is a bit odd. some could probably go over by quite a bit. it might be "fun" for someone to do experiment and find out the real max voltage of various good opamps
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