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Old 21st July 2005, 07:33 AM   #11
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Really, and how would I accomplish that?
Elso,

I supplied info on jitter of your clock, un-willing, as I agreed with Sjerko Piersma NOT to distribute my measurement results (he didn't keep his words though).

I now wisper in your ear that 1/F is an area for improvement of your clock.

Do you expect me to do everything for you ? lazy or dumb ?

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Can you imagine why professional manufacturers dislike DIY ?
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Old 21st July 2005, 07:54 AM   #12
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Elso,

I supplied info on jitter of your clock, un-willing, as I agreed with Sjerko Piersma NOT to distribute my measurement results (he didn't keep his words though).

I now wisper in your ear that 1/F is an area for improvement of your clock.

Do you expect me to do everything for you ? lazy or dumb ?

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Can you imagine why professional manufacturers dislike DIY ?
Hi Guido,
I did not know Sjerko got the jitter measurements from you. Anyway it was Sjerko's version of my clock you measured.
I strongly object to the qualifications "lazy" and "dumb" as the KWAK-CLOCK is my own original design. You did nothing for me, except that measurement. You was not involved in the design.
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Old 21st July 2005, 08:57 AM   #13
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Hi Guido,
I did not know Sjerko got the jitter measurements from you. Anyway it was Sjerko's version of my clock you measured.
I strongly object to the qualifications "lazy" and "dumb" as the KWAK-CLOCK is my own original design. You did nothing for me, except that measurement. You was not involved in the design.

Elso,

I do not blame you for the fact you got the measurements from Sjerko. I told Sjerko he violated mutual agreements, he did not react yet. Needless to say that no-one else can carry out these measurements in the Netherlands.

I NEVER stated that I was involved in your design, so please stop using that argument before you make a true fool of yourself.

My problem with you is that I supply you a decent and valueable amount of information, enabling you to to come up with Kwak clock #9 which could be an improvement, and you reaction then remains:

"how would I accomplish that"

You could have considered a reaction like:

"thanks Guido for pointing me that way, I will try to carry out some measurements and see if I can improve the design"

Ofcourse its' your choice how to react, but at least now I see the true colours.
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Old 21st July 2005, 05:12 PM   #14
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Gentlemen, this discussion is going a wrong direction. Please realise we all know you are fishing in the same waters and as such giving info on your competing products is a gray area. Maybe it is wiser not to speak of your competitors products at all and let the members themselves decide which product is best. Compete with products instead of quarreling you both.

I object to the classification "dumb" and "lazy" Guido. Consider this a warning.
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Old 21st July 2005, 09:40 PM   #15
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Agreed it is going in the wrong direction, but it is more entertaining than a lot of the other less-than-useful stuff posted here.

Just my opinion. Which probably smells as bad as I do.

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Bummer, I was enjoying that, it was like watching a good boxing match, except with brains involved.


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Old 22nd July 2005, 07:44 PM   #17
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Cool 1/f Noise

1/f noise is interesting as it cannot be removed effectively by low-pass filtering according to some discontinued Burr-Brown application note.
For those unfamilar with the term: 1/f is low-frequency noise. It's spectral density increases without limit as frequency decreases. No semiconductor device is free of it.
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Originally posted by Jocko Homo
Which probably smells as bad as I do.

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Take a shower Jocko, or plunge into a nearby lake!
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Old 23rd July 2005, 12:08 AM   #19
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Default I do shower........

Do you think that it helps any????

I'll pass on the lake.............too many bubbas and their motor boats speeding around. Too risky.

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Old 23rd July 2005, 08:58 AM   #20
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No semiconductor device is free of it.
true, but there are semiconductores and semiconductors
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