CAL Tempest 2/ Magnavox 2041

jez · 8th June 2005, 06:05 PM

I have a CAL Tempest 2 here which needs both repair and conversion to UK mains voltage. The problem is that the philips mechanism used is a Magnavox 2041 and there appears to be no way of finding the equivalent european model number (if there is a european version....) in order to get the part from philips. Non of philips UK divisions have even heard of magnavox!.
Can anyone help?.
Jez

scottnixon · 8th June 2005, 07:42 PM

Maganvox had at the same time a mid-sized player FD1041. As I remember it was identical to the 2041 internally. Philips had the CD104, which I think was the same as the 1041. Look into (buy cheap) the CD104 locally and see if you can use parts. If not .. resell it. May need a step down trans anyway unless the Cal tube transformer is dual primary, which is unlikely.

scottnixon · 8th June 2005, 07:48 PM

The Philips CD104 might be the same as the FD1040 magnavox. The FD1041 is one generation newer 14bit, so you may see if there was a newer version of the CD104. Fuzzy memories as this was about 20 years ago. Ask the UK Philips guys id there is a newer version of the 104, plastic chassis, plastic drive etc.

rfbrw · 8th June 2005, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scottnixon
Ask the UK Philips guys id there is a newer version of the 104, plastic chassis, plastic drive etc.

CD204 ????

TDA1540 · 8th June 2005, 11:03 PM

Magnavox 2040 = Philips cd204

Magnavox 2041= Philips cd350

scottnixon · 9th June 2005, 12:05 AM

TDA1540 of course is correct

scottnixon · 9th June 2005, 12:24 AM

Noticed that it's the Tempest "2" in question ( did not notice that before) If it's a 2 chassis player, the base cd player was a Magnavox 472 or 473, 16bit models. In stock form they had a 'dashboard' at the bottom of the front panel with some of the controls there. CAL folded that pcb down to lay flat on their faceplate. Don't know if Philips had an identical model for Europe or not. Bet TDA1540 can find out.
Attached is a Tempest II, if it looks like this it's a 472/473 player at the core. If it's a one box Tempest, then it was a 2041/CD350 based player.

TDA1540 · 9th June 2005, 01:05 AM

yes.with identical numbers.

Interesting players these Tempests.If anyone has a schematic of the analogue part......

jez · 9th June 2005, 08:28 AM

Thanks for the advice guys!. It is indeed the two box Tempest which is giving me all this hassle.... The transformer in the separate PSU does have dual primarys, as does a small (10VA or so) transformer mounted on the rear panel of the main player box which provides the digital 5V, these I have converted for UK mains. The Philips player looked like it would be easy to convert...... What appeared to be multiple primarys were mainly dummy pins used to hold down the TX.... it only has the one primary!. Stranger still, it appears that CAL removed the original TX and replaced it with the one currently fitted!, maybe they could not obtain any more USA spec chassis and were having to modify European ones?
My customer reckons he has a contact who can obtain the schematic for the Tempest II, should be interesting....
Jez.
PS is that 472 model number the same for Philips and Magnavox?

TDA1540 · 9th June 2005, 09:33 AM

can you post a picture of the transformer?

8th June 2005, 06:05 PM	#1
jez diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: n.e england	CAL Tempest 2/ Magnavox 2041 I have a CAL Tempest 2 here which needs both repair and conversion to UK mains voltage. The problem is that the philips mechanism used is a Magnavox 2041 and there appears to be no way of finding the equivalent european model number (if there is a european version....) in order to get the part from philips. Non of philips UK divisions have even heard of magnavox!. Can anyone help?. Jez

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8th June 2005, 07:42 PM	#2
scottnixon diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: High Point, NC	Maganvox had at the same time a mid-sized player FD1041. As I remember it was identical to the 2041 internally. Philips had the CD104, which I think was the same as the 1041. Look into (buy cheap) the CD104 locally and see if you can use parts. If not .. resell it. May need a step down trans anyway unless the Cal tube transformer is dual primary, which is unlikely.

8th June 2005, 07:48 PM	#3
scottnixon diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: High Point, NC	The Philips CD104 might be the same as the FD1040 magnavox. The FD1041 is one generation newer 14bit, so you may see if there was a newer version of the CD104. Fuzzy memories as this was about 20 years ago. Ask the UK Philips guys id there is a newer version of the 104, plastic chassis, plastic drive etc.

8th June 2005, 11:03 PM	#5
TDA1540 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ehv	Magnavox 2040 = Philips cd204 Magnavox 2041= Philips cd350

9th June 2005, 01:05 AM	#8
TDA1540 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ehv	yes.with identical numbers. Interesting players these Tempests.If anyone has a schematic of the analogue part......

9th June 2005, 08:28 AM	#9
jez diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: n.e england	Thanks for the advice guys!. It is indeed the two box Tempest which is giving me all this hassle.... The transformer in the separate PSU does have dual primarys, as does a small (10VA or so) transformer mounted on the rear panel of the main player box which provides the digital 5V, these I have converted for UK mains. The Philips player looked like it would be easy to convert...... What appeared to be multiple primarys were mainly dummy pins used to hold down the TX.... it only has the one primary!. Stranger still, it appears that CAL removed the original TX and replaced it with the one currently fitted!, maybe they could not obtain any more USA spec chassis and were having to modify European ones? My customer reckons he has a contact who can obtain the schematic for the Tempest II, should be interesting.... Jez. PS is that 472 model number the same for Philips and Magnavox?

9th June 2005, 09:33 AM	#10
TDA1540 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ehv	can you post a picture of the transformer?

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