Clock wars?: 'Superclock 3' vs. KBK's personal design

KBK · 29th April 2005, 02:05 AM

I bought the Superclock 3 to try out (OK. Had a BIG credit at Parts xion) in my Shanling SACD player. Since it came completely with no instructions of any kind, does anyone know the voltage this puppy runs on? or even further, what the heck is the exact proceedure for replacing the original clock? I'd hate to screw up my shanling boards. I'm not stupid, I'm just ignorant of the proceeducre for placing one of thse puppies in my CD player.

No instructions? what the hecky poo is with that?

KBK · 29th April 2005, 03:44 AM

ah hah!..found this on the Superclock 3 PSU board:..."applied to proprietary circuitry which cancels out low level ripple from the filter capacitor and regulate the 12V DC output to Superclock 3...."

12 volts it is, then. hm..where to steal if from, for this little test.... Seems like this clock board might grab a fair amount of current. Have to scoop it from somewhere...as a temp fix, of course.

You might find the superclock 3 for sale soon, after this little experiment. I'll try not to be biased ahead of time.

Time to heat up the ole gun...

planet10 · 29th April 2005, 05:56 AM

Let us know how it turns out... the Shanling player always turns my head...

dave

Elso Kwak · 29th April 2005, 09:01 AM

Hi KBK, What is KBK's personal design?
You could try the websites of Lcaudio, Audiocom, Trichord or http://www.tentlabs.com/ to search for instructions.

KBK · 29th April 2005, 02:51 PM

Elso: I started the thread..then thought it was in very bad taste to do so.

1: I love to share, and can't wait until the clock I designed is available for people to use and experiment with.
2: It is in dire need of patent protection.
3: The patent protection, as an issue to pursue..has just recently been started. I have an office that has about 20 agents in it..with one person I trust working there, and two engineers are about to be working on a plan to introduce it to a large university to work out the details of the claims. It is a fundamental enough change in thinking to require such effort and protection. Ie I -need- the university and the offices of 20 or more lawyers to protect and exploit it.

So, it was in bad taste, as I obviously can't share any details on it, at this time. And as you can see by the situation, it may be quite some time yet, before it can be shared freely amongst the DIY crew.

I bought the superclock as a simple test, or proof that I'm doing things exactly right. One more verification in a long line of verifications. Also, I m curious what others are doing in this area of endeavor.

I tried the site for audiocom in a general way, but found nothing on any cd player installs. I'll look at the sites you mentioned for mounting info. thanks!

Jocko Homo · 29th April 2005, 05:04 PM

1.) You are designing a clock, of your design, and

2.) You want to patent it,

"WHY?", he asks.

3.) Yet you seem to be in need of assistance installing a generic DIY clock.

Am I missing something? Just curious.

Jocko

Elso Kwak · 29th April 2005, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KBK
Elso: I started the thread..then thought it was in very bad taste to do so.

1: I love to share, and can't wait until the clock I designed is available for people to use and experiment with.
2: It is in dire need of patent protection.
3: The patent protection, as an issue to pursue..has just recently been started. I have an office that has about 20 agents in it..with one person I trust working there, and two engineers are about to be working on a plan to introduce it to a large university to work out the details of the claims. It is a fundamental enough change in thinking to require such effort and protection. Ie I -need- the university and the offices of 20 or more lawyers to protect and exploit it.

So, it was in bad taste, as I obviously can't share any details on it, at this time. And as you can see by the situation, it may be quite some time yet, before it can be shared freely amongst the DIY crew.

I bought the superclock as a simple test, or proof that I'm doing things exactly right. One more verification in a long line of verifications. Also, I m curious what others are doing in this area of endeavor.

I tried the site for audiocom in a general way, but found nothing on any cd player installs. I'll look at the sites you mentioned for mounting info. thanks!

KBK,
If your design is not a Colpitts, Pierce or Butler oscillator or any variant thereof you should indeed apply for a patent.

Yet I am even more surprised than Jocko as you are needing assistance installing your thingie........
Guido's PDF file should provide you with the necessary clues....... It's dead simple. (Quite surprised my name is in the document)

Jocko Homo · 29th April 2005, 05:16 PM

Vackar, Hartley, Seiler, Clapp, Meacham, Miller, emitter coupled, common base........etc, blah, blah..........

Sorry, it was too tempting. Shame on you, Elso.

Jocko

Elso Kwak · 29th April 2005, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jocko Homo
Vackar, Hartley, Seiler, Clapp, Meacham, Miller, emitter coupled, common base........etc, blah, blah..........

Sorry, it was too tempting. Shame on you, Elso.

Jocko

Ok I forgot a few......

carlosfm · 29th April 2005, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KBK
...what the heck is the exact proceedure for replacing the original clock? I'd hate to screw up my shanling boards. I'm not stupid, I'm just ignorant of the proceeducre for placing one of thse puppies in my CD player.

Quote:

Originally posted by KBK

1: I love to share, and can't wait until the clock I designed is available for people to use and experiment with.
2: It is in dire need of patent protection.

Huh... are you sure you wanna do this?

29th April 2005, 02:05 AM	#1
KBK diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Wilds Of Canada	Clock wars?: 'Superclock 3' vs. KBK's personal design I bought the Superclock 3 to try out (OK. Had a BIG credit at Parts xion) in my Shanling SACD player. Since it came completely with no instructions of any kind, does anyone know the voltage this puppy runs on? or even further, what the heck is the exact proceedure for replacing the original clock? I'd hate to screw up my shanling boards. I'm not stupid, I'm just ignorant of the proceeducre for placing one of thse puppies in my CD player. No instructions? what the hecky poo is with that? __________________ "Never forget that only dead fish swim with the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge. "Truth cannot be brought down, rather the individual must make the effort to ascend to it." -- Jiddu Krishnamurti

29th April 2005, 03:44 AM	#2
KBK diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Wilds Of Canada	ah hah!..found this on the Superclock 3 PSU board:..."applied to proprietary circuitry which cancels out low level ripple from the filter capacitor and regulate the 12V DC output to Superclock 3...." 12 volts it is, then. hm..where to steal if from, for this little test.... Seems like this clock board might grab a fair amount of current. Have to scoop it from somewhere...as a temp fix, of course. You might find the superclock 3 for sale soon, after this little experiment. I'll try not to be biased ahead of time. Time to heat up the ole gun... __________________ "Never forget that only dead fish swim with the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge. "Truth cannot be brought down, rather the individual must make the effort to ascend to it." -- Jiddu Krishnamurti

29th April 2005, 05:56 AM	#3
planet10 frugal-phile(tm) diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III Blog Entries: 4	Let us know how it turns out... the Shanling player always turns my head... dave __________________ community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA

29th April 2005, 02:51 PM	#5
KBK diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Wilds Of Canada	Elso: I started the thread..then thought it was in very bad taste to do so. 1: I love to share, and can't wait until the clock I designed is available for people to use and experiment with. 2: It is in dire need of patent protection. 3: The patent protection, as an issue to pursue..has just recently been started. I have an office that has about 20 agents in it..with one person I trust working there, and two engineers are about to be working on a plan to introduce it to a large university to work out the details of the claims. It is a fundamental enough change in thinking to require such effort and protection. Ie I -need- the university and the offices of 20 or more lawyers to protect and exploit it. So, it was in bad taste, as I obviously can't share any details on it, at this time. And as you can see by the situation, it may be quite some time yet, before it can be shared freely amongst the DIY crew. I bought the superclock as a simple test, or proof that I'm doing things exactly right. One more verification in a long line of verifications. Also, I m curious what others are doing in this area of endeavor. I tried the site for audiocom in a general way, but found nothing on any cd player installs. I'll look at the sites you mentioned for mounting info. thanks! __________________ "Never forget that only dead fish swim with the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge. "Truth cannot be brought down, rather the individual must make the effort to ascend to it." -- Jiddu Krishnamurti

29th April 2005, 05:04 PM	#6
Jocko Homo Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: As far from the NOSsers as possible	Let me see if I have this right......... 1.) You are designing a clock, of your design, and 2.) You want to patent it, "WHY?", he asks. 3.) Yet you seem to be in need of assistance installing a generic DIY clock. Am I missing something? Just curious. Jocko


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29th April 2005, 09:01 AM	#4
Elso Kwak Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Zamboanga, City of Flowers, Mindanao	Hi KBK, What is KBK's personal design? You could try the websites of Lcaudio, Audiocom, Trichord or http://www.tentlabs.com/ to search for instructions.

29th April 2005, 05:16 PM	#8
Jocko Homo Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: As far from the NOSsers as possible	Vackar, Hartley, Seiler, Clapp, Meacham, Miller, emitter coupled, common base........etc, blah, blah.......... Sorry, it was too tempting. Shame on you, Elso. Jocko

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