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RCruz

RCruz

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Re: Super Regulator review

Malefoda said:
As you may know I've fitted a Super Regulator, from Sercal aka Brent, in the best CD53 of the world (yes I have no competitors for you are all with 63/67 ;) ).

Here is the pictures of the player at the moment.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.


The SReg 5V is powered via C813.
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Hi Matthieu

I am also modding a CD53 and am very interested in your work.

I examined your photo but did not identify the Sreg.

Can you please explain more ?

What type of clock are you using ?

Regards

Ricardo
 
Malefoda

Malefoda

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Re: Re: Super Regulator review

RCruz said:


Hi Matthieu

I am also modding a CD53 and am very interested in your work.
I examined your photo but did not identify the Sreg.

Can you please explain more ?
What type of clock are you using ?

Regards
Ricardo
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Hi Ricardo, the Sreg is just in front of the BG at the opamps. It's the small PCB wich I managed to make it look as stock as possible. I think it does look OEM ;) I feel bad with war in my CDP. The Clock is the famous Flea, you can find more about it at Pink Fish Media forums. It has its own PSU. Beside the full Ray's list (wich is a big work!) I've the clock and its PSU, Raygulators for the opamps, BG@LM4562, HF coax mod, damping and cooling on chassis... now it's a so great player! I just hope I'm near the CDP I was near to buy, the Naim CD5i and for this that all the work done is justified. Unfortunately I've no Naim to face :'(

Thomo said:

An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
But I'm struggling to think of anything else to do. Any ideas welcome.
Lee.
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Lee, clean this up! If it's me I can't sleep at all!

Matthieu
 
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Mikko H.

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SimontY said:
Hi Mikko, and Merry Christmas to all!

I have lots of noise too, and I'm not sure where it comes from, so I'll be eagerly following developments.

Re. your sound, I would think about changing the interconnects to ones with pure copper conducters, and putting the CD player on wooden cones. You'll also need to let the new upgrades "settle down" if you haven't already done so. The sound from the CD player should be fairly neutral, so there could be some brightness elsewhere throwing your sound out of balance now that the CD player is more precise.

Simon
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Thanks for tips Simon ! I have run the CD player in for a while so it should have settled down quite good. I think I have one Cardas copper interconnect left on my stock, I will try this on my system. I will also check my speaker crossover quality, I think these speakers are now the weakest point in my system.

About the noise. The DAC output signals have a lot of noise because of high frequencies related to PWM output (signal edges). I think I should shield the wires coming from DAC or add some high freq series filters straight to DAC output pins before wiring to output stage. These later "add on's" are not quite ideal because the signals are lift away from steady ground plane on main PCB. One thing just came in my mind: With Sercal discrete output stage, the inputs does not have their own GND pin for return current to DAC. Now the grounding goes through output/PSU GND routes and this can cause some noise problems.
BTW, is the Sercal discrete output stage exactly the same topology that Ray has created or is this some mod from that? At least the component quality on Ray's output stage is better.

- Mikko
 
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Malefoda said:
I just hope I'm near the CDP I was near to buy, the Naim CD5i and for this that all the work done is justified.
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Hi Matthieu,

My CD player was found to be on a par with a modified Naim CD3.5, although they sound quite different. As yours is a bit less modified and the CD5i is nothing like a modded CD3.5 I'd *guess* that you'll be competing well with that model.

Your work is superbly neat btw, it puts anything I do to shame!


Mikko H. said:
...With Sercal discrete output stage, the inputs does not have their own GND pin for return current to DAC. Now the grounding goes through output/PSU GND routes and this can cause some noise problems.
BTW, is the Sercal discrete output stage exactly the same topology that Ray has created or is this some mod from that? At least the component quality on Ray's output stage is better.
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Hi Mikko,

Some interesting thoughts there. Let's wait and see what Brent has to say, as he is aware of a noise phenomenon when using S Powers on a discrete buffer stage.

I'm not sure the component quality is too far from ideal on the Sercal board - I know Brent spent time listening to parts to reach cost vs. performance ideals. With the huge overheads of fabricating professional PCBs one has to draw a line on parts costs.

With that said, I'm happy to be using big fat Kiwame resistors and polystyrene filter caps, and I'm sure they contribute to the warm, sweet sound I have. I also suspect my big parts approach has something to do with the noise problem I have (it's quite severe). The carefully laid out, short tracks of a good PCB should help to minimise noise.

Simon
 
RCruz

RCruz

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Re: Re: Re: Super Regulator review

Malefoda said:


Hi Ricardo, the Sreg is just in front of the BG at the opamps. It's the small PCB wich I managed to make it look as stock as possible. I think it does look OEM ;) I feel bad with war in my CDP. The Clock is the famous Flea, you can find more about it at Pink Fish Media forums. It has its own PSU. Beside the full Ray's list (wich is a big work!) I've the clock and its PSU, Raygulators for the opamps, BG@LM4562.
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Thank you Matthieu

Your work is superb !!!

I have done similar mods in my CD53 and want to upgrade with a clock in the servo and dac.

Also love the micas you placed around the opamps... I will do that also.

I recently upgraded my analog PSU with a 30VA TX and the result is a much bigger sounstage with good bass and definition.

I did not find a way to post pictures (mine seem to be too big) but will find out soon.

Regards

Ricardo
 
RCruz

RCruz

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Malefoda said:
And final word for the Super Reg feeding the analog section of the DAC:
I do put the amp louder than before, less harsh. And what depth and silence around each instrument!
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Hi again Matthieu .

This seems to be the next best practice i must take.

Can you specify the pins on the DAC where you input from the Super reg ?

Are these the 21 and 22 +5v input ?

Did you remove CD12 and CD13 ?

Ricardo
 
RCruz

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CD53 SERC

To you all I dedicate this picture.

This player can really sing now.

Ricardo
 

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quan

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marantz 63 mod

Hi guys
just built a power supply unit for the Kwak clock and +5V regulators-DAC/Xtal/digital supply-by removing U200/RD01 and Rd04.-tapping power from U261 and ground nearby
Dc offset is 26mV which is fine,
the problem is the sudden cut off of music when playing after few minutes and when switch off and start again then it is ok for a few minutes then it cut off again. In the wholetime the disc is spinning fine. What could be the problem?Many thanks Quan-:confused:
 
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