Go Back   Home > Forums > Source & Line > Digital Source
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Digital Source Digital Players and Recorders: CD , SACD , Tape, Memory Card, etc.

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 6th February 2006, 02:47 PM   #551
SimontY is offline SimontY  United Kingdom
diyAudio Member
 
SimontY's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Sheffield, North England
Send a message via MSN to SimontY
Quote:
Originally posted by Biskit
Any news on the custom TX.

I'm thinking of potting my frame tranny in a mu metal can.

Gordon
Mu-metal is the dogs for shielding EMI isn't it? Won't you be better off getting this custom toroid though?
  Reply With Quote
Old 6th February 2006, 02:50 PM   #552
diyAudio Member
 
Fidelity Audio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Doncaster England
Yeah custom or KI tx. Much more headroom
  Reply With Quote
Old 6th February 2006, 02:57 PM   #553
6h5c is offline 6h5c  Netherlands
One Seriously Addicted to Audio and Electronics
diyAudio Member
 
6h5c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Heerhugowaard
Quote:
Originally posted by poynton
Or a noisy tube or FET ??
I would also be tempted to play with the values of the 620pf caps ?? The original circuit has more filtering - a passive filter may also be an answer??
Quote:
Originally posted by poynton
Did you use ecc88?
What B+ did you use?
Did you check the current through the FET?
What voltage did you get at the A-K junction.
Hi Andy!

Well, I know a bit more now. The remaining noise is not coming from a tube or the FET.
I measured in my CD63 to compare the results, and it too has this noise at the output .
Would you, or somebody else with a scope be so kind to verify this on his player? With the player in stop-mode and no muting circuit and HDAM installed, I can measure allmost 20mVpp.

For Thorstens circuit I used ECC82 on a B+ of about 220V. I didn't have 4k7 around for the PSU series resistor, so I gave each channel a 6k8. I upped the B+ a little so the voltage behind it reaches the desired 190V. The A-K voltage should be about 100V. The voltage over the FET is less than expected, because the DAC's 2,5V DC voltage is divided by the 10k-22k combination. The current through the FET is about 4mA. The FETs are not very equal....

Regards,

Ray.
__________________
Gonna buy my little girl a pink soldering-iron
The new DOS-CFP board is out!
  Reply With Quote
Old 6th February 2006, 03:06 PM   #554
diyAudio Member
 
Fidelity Audio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Doncaster England
I have 22mV on outputs with no HDAM
  Reply With Quote
Old 6th February 2006, 03:09 PM   #555
6h5c is offline 6h5c  Netherlands
One Seriously Addicted to Audio and Electronics
diyAudio Member
 
6h5c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Heerhugowaard
Quote:
Originally posted by Franz G
Absolutely no noise, just music!
Gerald Gessner is selling his modifications, so I am not allowed to publish the exactly circuit.
It is really just a LC filter, 1mH in series with the signal, 10 nF to ground.
And: no output cap!
When I use this player with my DC coupled PL519 amp, then I have absolutely no cap in the signal path after the DAC chip.

Franz
Thanks Franz. I think the noise is there, but you'll have to set your volume to max. to hear it. The tubestage's amplification is less, so I noticed it when I turned the volume up.

Quote:
Originally posted by rowemeister
I have 22mV on outputs with no HDAM
Thanks Brent, for measuring so fast !
Thank goodness i'm not the only one, apparently this is normal for this player.

Regards,

Ray.
__________________
Gonna buy my little girl a pink soldering-iron
The new DOS-CFP board is out!
  Reply With Quote
Old 6th February 2006, 03:12 PM   #556
diyAudio Moderator Emeritus
 
Bas Horneman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Blog Entries: 18
Hi Ray,

Just popped in to say this is indeed a cool thread...!!! Plenty of co-operation. And a lot of interested people.....gotta get me an old Marantz somewhere..

So is the tube stage all you dreamed of?

Regards,
Bas
  Reply With Quote
Old 6th February 2006, 03:15 PM   #557
6h5c is offline 6h5c  Netherlands
One Seriously Addicted to Audio and Electronics
diyAudio Member
 
6h5c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Heerhugowaard
Quote:
Originally posted by Bas Horneman
Hi Ray,

Just popped in to say this is indeed a cool thread...!!! Plenty of co-operation. And a lot of interested parties.....gotta get me an old Marantz somewhere..

Regards,
Bas
Hi Bas!

Thanks for the compliments! How's your PP project?
I haven't had time yet to put your chokes in my amp, but PSU designer shows it's a good thing. Been busy with this tubestage...
Maybe next week, I'll let you know what the results are.

I've got a CD63 for you, but it's already modded....

Regards,

Ray.
__________________
Gonna buy my little girl a pink soldering-iron
The new DOS-CFP board is out!
  Reply With Quote
Old 6th February 2006, 03:16 PM   #558
poynton is offline poynton  United Kingdom
Magneto the Gravity Man
diyAudio Member
 
poynton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: A life on the ocean waves when I'm not at home in N. Wales (but I'm not Welsh so no sheep jokes!)
Quote:
Originally posted by 6h5c


Thanks Franz. I think the noise is there, but you'll have to set your volume to max. to hear it. The tubestage's amplification is less, so I noticed it when I turned the volume up.



Thanks Brent, for measuring so fast !
Thank goodness i'm not the only one, apparently this is normal for this player.

Regards,

Ray.
HI.

To find the source of the noise and so reduce / eliminate it, you need to measure earlier preferably just after the dac.



Andy
  Reply With Quote
Old 6th February 2006, 03:20 PM   #559
poynton is offline poynton  United Kingdom
Magneto the Gravity Man
diyAudio Member
 
poynton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: A life on the ocean waves when I'm not at home in N. Wales (but I'm not Welsh so no sheep jokes!)
Quote:
Originally posted by Bas Horneman
............ co-operation. ..............
After all............


...............Resistance is futile ..............
  Reply With Quote
Old 6th February 2006, 03:21 PM   #560
diyAudio Moderator Emeritus
 
Bas Horneman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Blog Entries: 18
Quote:
Thanks for the compliments! How's your PP project?
Haven't started yet...maybe tonight

Quote:
I haven't had time yet to put your chokes in my amp, but PSU designer shows it's a good thing. Been busy with this tubestage...
Maybe next week, I'll let you know what the results are.
NO hurries mate.

Quote:
I've got a CD63 for you, but it's already modded....
Thanks...but that would be a waste of a great sounding CD player..since I'll would probably end up using it as a transport for my RAKK DAC.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 3 (2 members and 1 guests)
thierry67
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 12:48 AM.

Page generated in 0.23374 seconds (62.59% PHP - 37.41% MySQL) with 11 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio