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Old 17th December 2006, 11:33 AM   #5101
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Also, if I went for BG, is there anybody in the UK (or EU I suppose) selling them cheaper than Audiocom? (There must be....)
Oh yes, there certainly is mate... http://www.hificollective.co.uk/comp...gate_caps.html

Slightly cheaper anyway eg. 330u/16 Standard is 2.13, 2.48 at Audiocom (both ex. vat).

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Old 17th December 2006, 12:23 PM   #5102
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Oh yes, there certainly is mate... http://www.hificollective.co.uk/comp...gate_caps.html

Slightly cheaper anyway eg. 330u/16 Standard is 2.13, 2.48 at Audiocom (both ex. vat).

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Cheers Simon!

Well you know what they say... opinions are like ar$eholes - everybody has one... so the legendary Thorsten says this... and I'm using LM6172.

It can't be THAT bad surely?!
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Old 17th December 2006, 01:51 PM   #5103
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Hi Ray,

Have you ever used audio-cube? They appear to stock Silmic II and Cerafines. I didn't think Cerafines were still being made.

Now I have to choose between Silmic II, Cerafine, BG std, BG FK. It's tempting to stay with a Cerafine/Silmic mix so it stays 'Marantzy' (now there's a new word for you ).
Hi Glenn,

No, I never bought Elna's new actually. If I read the text in the Silmic section I remember why. Why is it a capacitor suddenly gets a silky sound if we put silk fibers in it?? I'd like to hear one with diamond dust, must be the top, sonically . Forgive my sarcasm, but I think there's too much marketing cr@p going round here. Plus there's no actual ESR data. That's suspicious too.

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Old 17th December 2006, 02:44 PM   #5104
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Hi Glenn,

No, I never bought Elna's new actually. If I read the text in the Silmic section I remember why. Why is it a capacitor suddenly gets a silky sound if we put silk fibers in it?? I'd like to hear one with diamond dust, must be the top, sonically . Forgive my sarcasm, but I think there's too much marketing cr@p going round here. Plus there's no actual ESR data. That's suspicious too.

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A good point, Ray.

How is it that silver cable always has a 'bell-like' sound.

I bet that if I produced a cable with lead screening (not for the signal), some reviewer would comment on the heavy, leaden sound .

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Old 17th December 2006, 03:12 PM   #5105
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Cheers Simon!

Well you know what they say... opinions are like ar$eholes - everybody has one... so the legendary Thorsten says this... and I'm using LM6172.

It can't be THAT bad surely?!
Interesting. I wonder why he dislikes BGs. I used the LM6172 in my preamp, and it's ok (but coarse and grating to my ears). LM4562 is light years ahead.

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Old 17th December 2006, 03:37 PM   #5106
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try teflon insulated solder wire.

I'm sure it will work!
well maybe for interconnects
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Old 17th December 2006, 05:12 PM   #5107
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try teflon insulated solder wire.

I'm sure it will work!
well maybe for interconnects
Would that be silver solder, lead-free or good old-fashioned lead-based 60/40 ??

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Old 17th December 2006, 05:49 PM   #5108
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Interesting. I wonder why he dislikes BGs. I used the LM6172 in my preamp, and it's ok (but coarse and grating to my ears). LM4562 is light years ahead.

Simon

I'll re-evaluate op-amps when I put some fresh caps in. I found the 6172 very revealing and it will reveal nasties if they are there rather than smooth them over like the BB stuff tends to... but after extensive mods to the player it sound superb. I found the 4562 rather sterile. Horses for courses! It's all about synergy with other components I suppose, so when I change those I may form a different opinion.

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Old 17th December 2006, 06:09 PM   #5109
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It's all about synergy with other components I suppose, so when I change those I may form a different opinion.
Absolutely. I use them in my preamp and 2 x 627 in my CD player. It might be a good mix.

Just been trying to remove the oscillation in my power supplies. I removed the silly 82n and 33n caps I'd put in, leaving just 1u for bypass at the psu end. Even after a couple of tracks, when I pause, there is no whine, and noise is fairly low. I think this has cracked it.

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Old 17th December 2006, 07:40 PM   #5110
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......the heavy, leaden sound .
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...... good old-fashioned lead-based 60/40 ??
thinking about it 60/40 must be better than my first suggestion of 63/37 for the extra lead content and the timbre lightened beyond belief by the teflon.
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