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Old 4th December 2006, 12:51 PM   #4951
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how come no one just lowers the output on the remote ?

Is there something im missing here,
The attenuation is done in the digital domain, by truncating bits.

Depending on the actual performance of the NPC dac, at -20dB you'll be about 3bits short - ie down to 13-bit sound. That's where the fuzzyness comes from...
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Old 4th December 2006, 01:22 PM   #4952
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That was a lot of replies in a short space of time LOL, well ill bang my attenuators back in tonight and see how it sounds, previously i couldnt tell the difference. I only have the -10dB, ill see if i can get the -14dB. Mine are source end for space behind the player as the amp was a bit cramped.

I havnt tried the attenuators since all my mods and i still have plenty to do.

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Old 4th December 2006, 02:13 PM   #4953
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I have -10dB goldenjacks attenuators source end, any recomendations, could of sworn i seen -14 db recommended ?

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Old 4th December 2006, 02:21 PM   #4954
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I have -10dB goldenjacks attenuators source end, any recomendations, could of sworn i seen -14 db recommended ?

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According to Russ Andrews its....
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Old 4th December 2006, 04:49 PM   #4955
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The attenuation is done in the digital domain, by truncating bits.

Depending on the actual performance of the NPC dac, at -20dB you'll be about 3bits short - ie down to 13-bit sound. That's where the fuzzyness comes from...
One bit less than an old Philips CD104 from '84.

No, that's not the way to do it.
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Old 4th December 2006, 04:58 PM   #4956
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One bit less than an old Philips CD104 from '84.



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Old 4th December 2006, 05:34 PM   #4957
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I have 1 functional and 1 spare. Really shi... build quality. The mech is outstanding - the rest
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Old 4th December 2006, 08:01 PM   #4958
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Thanks Brent, thats probably what i seen. I emailed the the Goldenjacks maker, where i did previously purchase, he has made me an excellent offer i cant refuse so will be ordering another set to try at say -12 or -14dB. I need a set on the tuner anyhow.

I popped them back on the cd out earlier and listened away and yes i can tell the difference, just dont know why i didnt before ! Im going for amp end this time tho. Hoprfully ill get some time to do some modding.
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Old 4th December 2006, 08:33 PM   #4959
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Default re: philips 104

I'd forgotten about these machines... my first intro to CD, when I was given one. Clear but thin as I recall - about 15years ago, when I all I had was a nice tape setup (as a penurious stoodent). And DIY LM1875-based amps with regulated supplies...

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Agreed! At least there's a nice heatsink for re-use...
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Old 4th December 2006, 11:20 PM   #4960
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LOL I like that, my head will swell

Brent

You mean it's not already swollen!!?





Glad to see there's several others tried the golden jacks- So I'm not the only one too stupid/ lazy/busy to make my own
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