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Old 14th April 2006, 10:35 AM   #1701
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Couldn't think when I was asking, sorry. It's a "of cause", it gives no meaning terminating a 18M wavelength after just 5mm.
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Old 14th April 2006, 11:09 AM   #1702
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Couldn't think when I was asking, sorry. It's a "of cause", it gives no meaning terminating a 18M wavelength after just 5mm.

i think we have all thought of it.

does make you wonder about the coax between dac and decoder
or the coax connectors for the tranport cable?

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Old 14th April 2006, 04:38 PM   #1703
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Hi guys,

Just for the record: the wave we are talking about is a square wave, with lots of higher order harmonics, that have much shorter wavelengths. Also the velocity in a cable is not light-speed, but less.

The point: the actual wavelength is about 20x? shorter than it seems at first glance. Not an issue here, just putting things into perspective. Am i being too much on the details? .

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Old 14th April 2006, 08:41 PM   #1704
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No no, its fine Ray. But I don't measure the waveform out of the Tent XO near square. I don't know whether my scope is the limit, but this is what I get from it. Doesn't seem to be a comperator output.

But I do agree, the square wave has much more energy than the sine.

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Old 14th April 2006, 10:15 PM   #1705
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No no, its fine Ray. But I don't measure the waveform out of the Tent XO near square. I don't know whether my scope is the limit, but this is what I get from it. Doesn't seem to be a comperator output.

But I do agree, the square wave has much more energy than the sine.

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thats what i get too, on a 20Mhz scope

need higher resolution scope to pick up 16.9Mhz square wave, all the higher order harmonics.

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Old 15th April 2006, 08:47 AM   #1706
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No no, its fine Ray. But I don't measure the waveform out of the Tent XO near square. I don't know whether my scope is the limit, but this is what I get from it. Doesn't seem to be a comperator output.

But I do agree, the square wave has much more energy than the sine.

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Old 15th April 2006, 09:30 AM   #1707
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But I don't measure the waveform out of the Tent XO near square. I don't know whether my scope is the limit, but this is what I get from it. Doesn't seem to be a comperator output.

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Hi avr,

Same as Allan, the square looks like a sine on my scope. If you do a search on this topic you can find more about it, and how to do a proper measurement with a terminated cable.

The closest I got to a square was on the scope of a friend of mine:

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Old 15th April 2006, 10:21 AM   #1708
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Hi,

Not sure you need to square up the sine...

A simple Colpitts FET oscillator should do it.

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...328#post886328

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...879#post891879
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Hi,

Not sure you need to square up the sine...

A simple Colpitts FET oscillator should do it.
That's true ash,

When I pull the AD8561 out of it's socket and replace it by a 10n coupling cap, everything runs fine. Haven't done any A-B comparing yet though, could be worth to try. It would sure make the clock a lot cheaper .

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That's true ash,

When I pull the AD8561 out of it's socket and replace it by a 10n coupling cap, everything runs fine. Haven't done any A-B comparing yet though, could be worth to try. It would sure make the clock a lot cheaper .

Ray.
Ray,

Without the comparator...

I'm not too sure how we should power the oscillator.

Would you know how to calculate the power supply consumption of the oscillator?
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