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Old 20th January 2010, 10:03 AM   #13951
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...at 240v/50z 4n7 will pass enough current to give you a belt, and 0.47uF far more than enough to kill you.
So is this a bad time to mention the audio website that advocates putting 1000uF across neutral and earth?

I agree sonically it's a mixed bag with mains filters but even though I don't understand the higher levels of reasoning I can't agree as to just why it's a mixed bag. Personally I think there are more factors than your local mains and system, I think a lot is down to how you design the filter. With the smaller caps across L & N there's not much or anything audible to be gained, but stick a 10uF lighting cap there and it can sound smoother and more open with deeper bass... odd. Risk sticking 10uF across N & E and it gets better again.

Then there are the more complex arrangements and filters using transorbs, gas arrestors and such, but for those more special carefully thought out designs I'd just recommend buying one of Brent's nice products to save killing yourself etc

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Old 20th January 2010, 10:04 AM   #13952
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Old 20th January 2010, 10:19 AM   #13953
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So is this a bad time to mention the audio website that advocates putting 1000uF across neutral and earth?
Tell me you are joking; that's insane.

The sole point of the Earth wire is as a protective conductor to deal with fault conditions. 1000uF effectively shorts it to N, completely defeating the safety aspect

Incidentally, 1000uF would pass c.80A of reactive current at 240v!

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Old 20th January 2010, 10:49 AM   #13954
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My new thread..... Kinshaw Perception Pre Amp needs revamp !

Hope some of you will care to give me a little help
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Old 20th January 2010, 11:26 AM   #13955
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Tell me you are joking; that's insane.
I was a little off with my values but here's the article:
Magnan Audio Cables Web Site - Tweaks: Do-it yourself approach to AC line filtering

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Old 20th January 2010, 12:46 PM   #13956
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I'd forgotten about that link. Full of poor erroneous info - a shocker
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Old 20th January 2010, 02:52 PM   #13957
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I'd forgotten about that link. Full of poor erroneous info - a shocker
Thats terrible!!! you should both be in the sinbin!!!!
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Old 20th January 2010, 05:02 PM   #13958
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After a fast TX swap, the machine is playing perfectly.

While I was hands on the iron, I replaced the 500000u // C815 by a much smaller 10000u BHC that fits inside the case.

Now I must wait to be able to report the sonic alterations.

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Old 20th January 2010, 05:04 PM   #13959
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I wonder what that will do too. I look forward to hearing about it.

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Old 20th January 2010, 05:21 PM   #13960
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In my CDP, C815 (after the main 5vreg) feeds only the uCon, display and lazer mech.

I know it is too soon.... this machine only sounds at its best after min 30min playing but I notice a reduction in the bass presence. The bass became more detailed and integrated. There is also more presence in the mids (power zone) so the stereo imagery is improved.

Can not comment on the highs... too soon.
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