Marantz CD63 & CD67 mods list - Page 1342

SimontY · 2nd November 2009, 02:26 PM

I wonder why nothing is coming in to replace Black Gates. It could be that it's too small a market for manufacturers to care about, when already there are Nichicon MUSE and Elna Silmic and For Audio parts available. I thought making BG would be profitable but maybe not enough

RCruz · 2nd November 2009, 03:39 PM

IMO, Ruby ZA are quite good in digital areas but in analog supplies they tend to produce a "thin" sound...... wonderfull detail with low distortion but somehow lacking in the low freq area.

studiostevus · 2nd November 2009, 03:44 PM

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SimontY · 2nd November 2009, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCruz

IMO, Ruby ZA are quite good in digital areas but in analog supplies they tend to produce a "thin" sound...... wonderfull detail with low distortion but somehow lacking in the low freq area.

What I notice whenever I've used Black Gates is a more forward midrange that is fluid and sweet. The sound is detailed in spite of a relaxed presentation. If only some other caps could confer this type of improvement

RCruz · 2nd November 2009, 04:37 PM

Hi Simon

I know you used silmic before.... how do you compare these with the BG ?

SimontY · 2nd November 2009, 04:44 PM

Hi Ricardo,

I've not compared them unfortunately. I'll be sure to post about it if and when I do. I might try some Silmics but it's hard to compare to something so hard to obtain. A better comparison might be vs. Cerafine, ZA, Os-con, film caps or MUSE - all nice audio-friendly decoupling caps.

Simon

Thomo · 2nd November 2009, 04:50 PM

Silmics are really smooth and full-bodied sounding caps with a nice, flowing nature. They are veiled in the detail department compared to Black Gate, ZA. The Silmic II does have a better top end than the older "mk1" version, but is still not up to Black Gate levels. However, if ZA are too dry for your tastes, I have found a combination of Silmic's directly after regs and ZA right at the loads is a really nice combination when BG are unavailable.

I really like the Nichicon Muse caps, these seem a little more open sounding than Silmic, but I haven't directly compared them.

Cheers, Lee.

SimontY · 2nd November 2009, 04:54 PM

So a sprinkling of "salt" here and "pepper" there may be the best way to proceed! Then perhaps we'll add some balsamic vinegar (os-con SEPC) to complete the feast.

We could discuss smoothing caps too but I can't add much to that one except to say bigger (physically) seems to sound better and bigger uF is a bonus.

Simon

RCruz · 2nd November 2009, 05:08 PM

Regarding smoothers I recently found the Jensen 4 pole to excel in trebble detail while maintaining a good presence and detail in the bass.

I will try Lee´s recipe (Silmic at the reg and ZA at the load) and report....

Thank you for the precious info !!!

SimontY · 2nd November 2009, 05:20 PM

Ah, I've seen those expensive Jensen caps and knew they were good, but it's nice to hear it from someone here!

2nd November 2009, 02:26 PM	#13411
SimontY diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sheffield, North England	I wonder why nothing is coming in to replace Black Gates. It could be that it's too small a market for manufacturers to care about, when already there are Nichicon MUSE and Elna Silmic and For Audio parts available. I thought making BG would be profitable but maybe not enough __________________ Fave. threads: Marantz CD63 \| Philips CD650 \| my 3-way dipoles \| T-bass for dipoles \| EnABL treatment \| Arcam Alpha (CD)

2nd November 2009, 04:44 PM	#13416
SimontY diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sheffield, North England	Hi Ricardo, I've not compared them unfortunately. I'll be sure to post about it if and when I do. I might try some Silmics but it's hard to compare to something so hard to obtain. A better comparison might be vs. Cerafine, ZA, Os-con, film caps or MUSE - all nice audio-friendly decoupling caps. Simon __________________ Fave. threads: Marantz CD63 \| Philips CD650 \| my 3-way dipoles \| T-bass for dipoles \| EnABL treatment \| Arcam Alpha (CD)

2nd November 2009, 04:54 PM	#13418
SimontY diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sheffield, North England	So a sprinkling of "salt" here and "pepper" there may be the best way to proceed! Then perhaps we'll add some balsamic vinegar (os-con SEPC) to complete the feast. We could discuss smoothing caps too but I can't add much to that one except to say bigger (physically) seems to sound better and bigger uF is a bonus. Simon __________________ Fave. threads: Marantz CD63 \| Philips CD650 \| my 3-way dipoles \| T-bass for dipoles \| EnABL treatment \| Arcam Alpha (CD)

2nd November 2009, 05:20 PM	#13420
SimontY diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sheffield, North England	Ah, I've seen those expensive Jensen caps and knew they were good, but it's nice to hear it from someone here! __________________ Fave. threads: Marantz CD63 \| Philips CD650 \| my 3-way dipoles \| T-bass for dipoles \| EnABL treatment \| Arcam Alpha (CD)

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2nd November 2009, 03:39 PM	#13412
RCruz diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cascais Blog Entries: 1	IMO, Ruby ZA are quite good in digital areas but in analog supplies they tend to produce a "thin" sound...... wonderfull detail with low distortion but somehow lacking in the low freq area.

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studiostevus diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Hague	Thomo, left a pm

2nd November 2009, 04:37 PM	#13415
RCruz diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cascais Blog Entries: 1	Hi Simon I know you used silmic before.... how do you compare these with the BG ?

2nd November 2009, 04:50 PM	#13417
Thomo diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2006	Silmics are really smooth and full-bodied sounding caps with a nice, flowing nature. They are veiled in the detail department compared to Black Gate, ZA. The Silmic II does have a better top end than the older "mk1" version, but is still not up to Black Gate levels. However, if ZA are too dry for your tastes, I have found a combination of Silmic's directly after regs and ZA right at the loads is a really nice combination when BG are unavailable. I really like the Nichicon Muse caps, these seem a little more open sounding than Silmic, but I haven't directly compared them. Cheers, Lee.

2nd November 2009, 05:08 PM	#13419
RCruz diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cascais Blog Entries: 1	Regarding smoothers I recently found the Jensen 4 pole to excel in trebble detail while maintaining a good presence and detail in the bass. I will try Lee´s recipe (Silmic at the reg and ZA at the load) and report.... Thank you for the precious info !!!

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