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Old 12th August 2009, 11:34 AM   #12901
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Originally posted by Malefoda
About the sample Ti is upset and my last order had comment like "man it cost us money what exactly your company build?"... I must slow down...

LMAO - superb

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Old 12th August 2009, 11:35 AM   #12902
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I think they're checking out the people who've ordered samples. They want to come round to my house and help me build my dac! Which is nice of them, but I've had to put it on hold due to a lack of funds

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They are coming round in long black coats, dark sunglasses & a silenced gun in the inside pocket.

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Old 12th August 2009, 12:19 PM   #12903
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Ricardo the idea here was given by Glenn who will confirm it does great for bass control & timing.
Yes. In my case I still used the original transformer.

I regulated down to +/- 7V so the LM317/337 still had enough dropout voltage and the servo amps still had enough headroom.

The gains were great. Bass was much more controlled and tight.

I don't know if it's because the servos themselves were benefitting from a regulated supply, or because it was isolating the +10V feeding the other 5V regs from servo-generated noise.

Andy Weekes once showed plots on here of nasty low-frequency servo currents causing noise peaks on the 5V rail when you press play.

If you have already added separate transformers feeding everything, then the gains from adding servo amp regulation may be small as you don't have the problem of the noise getting into other parts of the player.

It just depends upon which aspect of it made the improvement.... but I'd be very surprised if there was no improvement at all.
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Old 12th August 2009, 12:25 PM   #12904
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I originally fitted 6 7809 regs and there was improvement. Fitting 6 SPowers brought more improvement, the current delivery was improved (one fuses were bypassed). Timing became better + disc tracking improved.

It is also good to replace the +10V smoother cap with a much larger uF one.

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Old 12th August 2009, 01:14 PM   #12905
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I should add that I only used one pair of regulators for all the servo amps, not 6 like Brent.
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Old 12th August 2009, 02:56 PM   #12906
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Hi guys,
do you advise me to go lower than 9.7V or is it OK? I also wonder if I need a cap after each reg, in your cases you just inserted a 78/7909 or also find a place for a big cap ? As I'll insert the regs directly @U234 /237 maybe the 100/25 ZLH at each ICs are enough?
Well as I want it settle for ever I want to do it as right as possible.

Thanks,
Matthieu

(The 317/337 9.7V are the strange shaped ones, meant to be inserted in the PCB)
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Old 12th August 2009, 03:14 PM   #12907
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Old 12th August 2009, 03:53 PM   #12908
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Hi guys,
do you advise me to go lower than 9.7V or is it OK? I also wonder if I need a cap after each reg, in your cases you just inserted a 78/7909 or also find a place for a big cap ? As I'll insert the regs directly @U234 /237 maybe the 100/25 ZLH at each ICs are enough?
Well as I want it settle for ever I want to do it as right as possible.

Thanks,
Matthieu
I wouldn't go any lower than 7V, but higher is OK.

It depends what your input is under load (when playing).
It needs to be 2.5V - 3V higher than regulator voltage to regulate properly. This difference is the 'dropout' voltage.

If the dropout is below 2.5-3V it won't regulate properly but if you go much higher than this your regulators will get very hot. You should use little clip-on heatsinks anyway. (*EDIT* - assuming normal regs not LDO ones.)

That's why I set mine to 7V as there is 10V supplied from the TX.

You need the output capacitors for stability I'm afraid.

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Old 12th August 2009, 03:56 PM   #12909
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Hi guys,
do you advise me to go lower than 9.7V or is it OK? I also wonder if I need a cap after each reg, in your cases you just inserted a 78/7909 or also find a place for a big cap ? As I'll insert the regs directly @U234 /237 maybe the 100/25 ZLH at each ICs are enough?
Well as I want it settle for ever I want to do it as right as possible.

Thanks,
Matthieu

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They look nicely done

Yes fit caps after the regs.

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Old 12th August 2009, 04:05 PM   #12910
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They look nicely done

Yes fit caps after the regs.

Brent

Yes, you guys always put me to shame.

Apart from Simon anyway.
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