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Prune 30th November 2004 02:01 PM

Crosstalk cancellation
 
Are there any free or open source crosstalk cancellation programs, so that binaural recordings can be listened to over speakers? Any I've found, like WaveSurround, are pay-for; as for hardware options, they are very expensive.

Wodgy 30th November 2004 02:40 PM

Are you looking for crosstalk cancellation, or are you looking for an inverse HRTF program? You'd need the latter to remove the full set of head effects from a binaural recording. There are some sets of public-domain HRTF data available online, though I don't have the links offhand. Seems to me that it would be straightforward to compute the inverse filters and apply them to your music.

(How many binaural recordings do you have anyway? Just curious.)

Prune 30th November 2004 06:46 PM

That is not correct. Indeed, it's the other way around, where non-binaural recordings are used you need additional processing. See for example Gardner's PhD thesis.

Wodgy 30th November 2004 07:50 PM

I'm not up for reading through Ph.D. theses right now. Can you give me a brief reasoning of why this is wrong? Are we both using the same definition of "binaural"? I'm assuming you mean two microphones placed on a simulated head, not a generic dual mic stereo recording arrangement. How do you subtract away the head and pinna effects (occlusion, diffraction) if you don't have an HRTF to work with?

fcserei 30th November 2004 11:32 PM

Prune, IMHO you are wrong.

BTW an inexpensive and surprisingly good HW implementation is the Creative Playworks PS2000. Just scrap the speakers and the woofer and use real speakers and woofer in a + - 5 deg setup. And you need a quite dead room too.

It can do crosstalk cancellation based on the Dimagic (ISVR origin) technology and additional inverse HRTF processing to play back binaural recordings over the crosstalk cancelled speakers.

Marantz is also promised an ISVR research based technology (OPSODIS) for crosstalk cancellation only by next spring.


Frank

Prune 1st December 2004 09:25 AM

Quote:

Just scrap the speakers and the woofer and use real speakers and woofer
Wha?! :scratch:

fcserei 1st December 2004 11:23 AM

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The DSP is very good, but do not expect anyting accurate from the speakers. Just use quality speakers instead of these.

Prune 1st December 2004 01:18 PM

I remember the stereo dipole demo from an ISVR page. But searching for OPSODIS using Google, all I'm finding are Japanese pages. Do you have a pointer to the info?

fcserei 1st December 2004 04:14 PM

It is Japanese only yet. Search for Optumum Source Distribution for the original technology.

ashok 19th January 2006 01:44 PM

www.dimagic.com
 
Anyone heard the systems shown at www.dimagic.com ?

In spite of positional restrictions , how does it sound ?
Any experiments.
Cheers.


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