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Old 28th September 2004, 01:07 PM   #1
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hy all
I'm just starting to learn something about microcontrollers.I need some help from you regarding a PIC 18f84.I don't have a professonal programmer , but i wanted to ask you if you have some equivalent skematic that can make the same thing. I want to know also how do i copy the hex file from the PC into the MCU's memory
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Old 28th September 2004, 01:50 PM   #2
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Make or buy?

If you go to the Microchip seminars (I assume that they have them in Belgium or Holland) they give you a PIC-Start programmer for free -- you can download the most recent version of MPLAB from their website.

I use the MELABS serial programmer and the PIC-Basic Pro compiler -- it really saves time. There is a lower end version of PicBasic which sells for $49. I would also suggest that you listen along on the PIC-LIST -- access to which can be found on the MELABS website.

Programmers can also be built pretty inexpensively -- I am sure that your local library has back issues of Elektor -- they seem to have an article on building a programmer for the PIC's or AVR's every few months.
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Old 28th September 2004, 01:58 PM   #3
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I built this

http://www.sprut.de/electronic/pic/b...x.htm#brenner5

parts was ~ 5€

There is also free software provided to use this programmer

http://www.sprut.de/electronic/soft/...r.htm#download

and a tutorial


http://www.sprut.de/electronic/pic/index.htm
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Old 28th September 2004, 02:23 PM   #4
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There's so much on the pic micro you will never read it all. I bought a programmer because cheap ones that use the parallel port cann't be used in Windows XP (well I couldn't get it to work, even with "Allow IO").

I got the serial/usb one, here that works very well with Microchip's MPlab.
There are so many out there, this is another. I bought his book "programming and customising...." but this stuff gets in the way of my audio projects. I intend to update my remote control with a PIC one day though.
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Old 28th September 2004, 02:29 PM   #5
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cheap ones that use the parallel port cann't be used in Windows XP
for me it works
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Old 28th September 2004, 03:37 PM   #6
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Originally posted by johnnyx
There's so much on the pic micro you will never read it all. I bought a programmer because cheap ones that use the parallel port cann't be used in Windows XP (well I couldn't get it to work, even with "Allow IO").

Download this driver

It works well with me
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Old 28th September 2004, 04:10 PM   #7
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Hi audiopt
The link doesn't work for me. Is it just me? maybe I'm jinxed.

I built the TK3 programmer from epe magazine, and there are leds, display, switches etc. to make it more useful than a straight programmer, but I couldn't get it to work in XP, even with the "allow IO" software fix. It uses the parallel port, so that link could be useful to me.
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Old 28th September 2004, 04:46 PM   #8
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Some programmers need a 'virtual' paralell driver to work with XP.
There are a lot of them on the net, but this one works with me
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Old 29th September 2004, 08:50 AM   #9
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till: i dont know german do you have an english version for the pages from the links that you posted up ?
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Old 29th September 2004, 09:01 AM   #10
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No, there isn´t. But you will find many english pages about PICs using google, and the Schematics and layout you will understand language independend. Also you could ask me questions using email in case you need some translation etc.
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