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alano 4th April 2004 09:39 AM

p t ordinal
Can anybody out there tell me if it is possible to fit a HDCD
module into a Pink Triangle Ordinal
I see the module physically fits, but requires jumper settings
and as PT no longer exist no one seems to have this info
so any help would be most welcome. Alano

JohnW 4th April 2004 01:38 PM


Yes you can fit the HDCD filter to the Pink Triangle Ordinal, I’m sorry I can’t remember the jumper settings – you only have 3 to change – which means 9 combinations – my memory seems to say all removed (or was it all fitted!) – or just 2 fitted. Don’t worry, as the Ordinals designer, I can guarantee that you can’t damage the unit if you get them wrong – just load noise / distortion (keep the volume low while you power up after each try. Remove the power first before changing jumper settings!

Two jumpers fitted from the top bank down seem the most likely from memory – but it was more then 10 years ago!

Good luck, let me know – If you like the 22 Bit filter then the HDCD is better – my favourite was the HDCD – it gives the most “neutral” sound with best sound stage along with the 22 Bit, followed by the 18 Bit. In my opinion – the 20 Bit & 1307 where the most coloured – a bit like the Linn sound – heavy almost one note Bass and no sound stage.

There where always 2 camps – the 18, 22 & HDCD lovers or the 20Bit & TDA1307 lovers – no middle ground – audio is a very strange beast – at the end of the day, I guess that’s what makes us human….

John W

JohnW 4th April 2004 10:32 PM

Hi Alano,

One more combination from memory - top and bottom jumper fitted.... if still no luck, remember only 9 combinations - say 1 per minute, you will have the correct jumper settings within 10 minutes at most.

Sorry I could not be of more help - but remember, you cannot damage the unit by incorrect jumpers settings.

When your lucky, enjoy your HDCD filter - and let me know...


JohnW 5th April 2004 09:31 AM

Just for the record: -

Heard from Alan via email, For the HDCD module it’s the bottom jumper fitted only, (typically, Alan found it on the last try!).


tubenut 8th January 2008 11:13 AM

There is an Ordinal and Discmagic up for sale for about GBP200.00 equivalent.
Is the this DAC worth going after still, DAC7 filter.
I have a Theta DS Pro Basic II DAC and Data Basic II transport. Would probably sell the discmagic for 1/2 purchase price of combo.

JohnW 8th January 2008 01:13 PM

Hi Guillaume,

Depends which filter is fitted - If HDCD, 24 Bit or even maybe 22 Bit then yes, if TDA1307, 20Bit or 18Bit I personally would not bother...


tubenut 16th April 2011 03:26 PM

Hi John

In the end I ended up buying this Ordinal just for giggles, still very musical and a great way to up my TV dvd sound.

It only has one input module fitted. Is there a simple hack to add another input?

Need not be super duper, just for my satellite TV box.

Warseb 1st December 2012 09:12 AM

Hi everyone,
I have just done recapping my Ordinal and somthing went wrong:-(. One of the trafos is getting hot and it produces no sound. Could anyone help me with getting schematics for one?
Thanks in advance!


Avro Arrow 1st December 2012 01:48 PM

Sounds like you got one or more polarized caps in the wrong way around...

Warseb 1st December 2012 03:01 PM

Thanks for replay. That was first thing that came to my mind, so I did check it twice with PCB marks. It seems to be OK?
Mayby one of the caps is bad? They were brand new so I did not bother with checking all 24 psc. Any other thoughs:confused:?

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