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Old 30th November 2017, 04:03 PM   #11
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As far it gives a sound to die for....(for... low money I meant ), it will kill the other in the Top Chart (you know all these hats and overstacked things...) ! Me just trust my ears now ! Why not this one if the OP has no interrest in this factory producing this little circular client/server/dac !


I'm curious about the cable !

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Old 30th November 2017, 06:03 PM   #12
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It seems to be a convergence going on where ever cheaper DA converters get better and better. I think for CD quality it has already happened. The weakness is then mostly in the PSU and the analog output stage. A good cable belongs there too. I have no idea why cables sound so different but they do in my experience.
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Old 30th November 2017, 06:45 PM   #13
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Here is a picture of the whole schebang. Actually there is a 10kOhm potmeter before my poweramp ( not shown ) that sets the volume. That Potmeter could also be used BEFORE the buffer.
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Old 30th November 2017, 06:51 PM   #14
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What's on top of the thingy? The lid of a tea-kettle?

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Old 30th November 2017, 06:51 PM   #15
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One trick to make a good sounding cable is to make it short. My cable is a good quality, gold plated 3.5mm jack and an only 5cm long twisted pair of thin, teflon coated Mundorf silver-gold solid core cable. The RCAs are origibal Eichmanns with metal sleeves because i had them and beleave in the low mass theorem. There are new one from Eichmann the company and Eichmann the man. Maybe they are even better. WBT Next Gen will do too.
There are versions in copper, silver and NANO bla. They all may sound supltly difference but the old Eichamnn do, big time.
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Old 30th November 2017, 06:54 PM   #16
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hhahhaaaa That is a puck from a Spiral Groove turntable. Yes, that is one expensive lid.
I do not use it at this time so i just put it there as weight. I prefer another puck on my particular table.
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Old 30th November 2017, 06:58 PM   #17
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It seems to be a convergence going on where ever cheaper DA converters get better and better. I think for CD quality it has already happened. The weakness is then mostly in the PSU and the analog output stage. A good cable belongs there too. I have no idea why cables sound so different but they do in my experience.




Sure & dielectric of the cable too, the shortest length I use now the happier I am to avoid the mess with that ! And oh : solder : I had to remove some 4% silver Mundorf in a high tweaked dac ! I can not believe it, but when removed it sounded good again as initially tweaked !


Well, cool thread; remind me the tweaking of the old Philips CD player when they cost 10 to 20 euros in second hand shops : did that more than one decade....
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Under the thingy is a round bamboo plate and then a record weight and the " lid ".
Colour my crazy but i can centainly hear when i put weight on the thingy. The combination of materials makes a difference too. I am mad but that is the fun. Comes for more or less free when you accept your own creativity.
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Yes, the Philips. I burned my hands on them too. The more you took out of them the better they sounded........
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Under the thingy is a round bamboo plate and then a record weight and the " lid ".
Colour my crazy but i can centainly hear when i put weight on the thingy. The combination of materials makes a difference too. I am mad but that is the fun. Comes for more or less free when you accept your own creativity.
You hear acoustic feedback picked up be the oscillator in the DAC. That feedback creates jitter.

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