Seems pretty much the same to me.
Alas I seemed to have heavily culled my large DAC collection when I moved 1/4 way 'round the globe, so am not having much luck getting good measurements. Will keep trying, but no promises.
Terry, it's been a long time since you have been here. You are welcome any time...
No, it is completely different, this is how it should look:
I have already shown this elsewhere to Scott - so he should know. It is very different indeed.
A patent, if it should occur, is not a private matter. I know nothing whatsoever about Joe's "private life", or the private lives of anyone else on here.Coris said:
But this discussion is not about subjective sound quality. It is about what real physical effect a capacitor has on a circuit. I, and others, persist because Joe's followers persist in accusing us of various failings: failure to experiment (no need, as circuit theory is well established), calling Joe a liar (we have not - we have never questioned his honesty), to name but two.Ken Newton said:
Joe has claimed all along that this additional cap works in a way which is not a filter. He has said that adding a filter later on produces a different result. He suspects some subtle interaction between the cap and the DAC output stage, despite the wide variety of DAC output stage topologies which this cap is alleged to improve.
Yes, we would love to do that but the followers keep dragging in other issues. Joe has shown more wisdom than them, by largely remaining silent.Coris said:
Patents are a joke - no, never considered that for a nanosecond. I actually know Michael Molins, the US and Australian Patent Attorney: Molins & Co Home Page.
Perhaps some may see my Copyright Notice on those schematics/scenarios and if this leads them in a certain direction, then who knows.
Perhaps some may see my Copyright Notice on those schematics/scenarios and if this leads them in a certain direction, then who knows.
Copyright is far more of a joke. It covers your drawing. But I suspect that, given the absence of data showing any efficacy, folks aren't lining up to steal the "idea," so it's all kind of moot.
Review of Alternative Post-DAC Filtering:
Review of Alternative Post-DAC Filtering:
This guy have the post-DAC filter fitted and I have just received his email, so this is effectively a user review of the topic discussed here:
Got it Friday, Monday eve now. I have been listening to it over the weekend and I am very impressed and how it now sounds.
I listened to all sorts of music. Rock, Classical, Jazz both on SACD and CD.
I can now hear things that I never heard before on some tracks also I feel the imaging of instruments has improved also. One example was Jessica Williams, a very fine Jazz pianist. The piano sounded that it was right in the room with me!!!!
To my amazement I thought I was listening to an SACD but in fact it was a CD, the sound was so good.
Thanks again for the upgrade.
Regards
Tony M
Don't you just hate that? 🙄
Is the level of distrust in this world reached this sad level? Did I hypnotise this guy, did I con him? To some of you it seems that is your conclusion. Isn't that rather sad? But Tony M is actually very happy - it was very cheap to do, so where is the con?
Terry hasn't been here for years, maybe he could come over and report here - I know he will be surprised, but it will be his report, his words, and Terry I know does not take dictation. 🙂
And Terry, talk to Clay Giseler, he is so convinced he is using it in his Klein DAC, so is Michael Lenehan and Tony Wong. These guys were telling us for years that delta-sigma DACs don't cut it and now are saying they realise that they can actually sound better than ladder DACs. So, if you don't trust me, get in touch with those guys. They are not imagining things.
Cheers, Joe
Review of Alternative Post-DAC Filtering:
This guy have the post-DAC filter fitted and I have just received his email, so this is effectively a user review of the topic discussed here:
Got it Friday, Monday eve now. I have been listening to it over the weekend and I am very impressed and how it now sounds.
I listened to all sorts of music. Rock, Classical, Jazz both on SACD and CD.
I can now hear things that I never heard before on some tracks also I feel the imaging of instruments has improved also. One example was Jessica Williams, a very fine Jazz pianist. The piano sounded that it was right in the room with me!!!!
To my amazement I thought I was listening to an SACD but in fact it was a CD, the sound was so good.
Thanks again for the upgrade.
Regards
Tony M
Don't you just hate that? 🙄
Is the level of distrust in this world reached this sad level? Did I hypnotise this guy, did I con him? To some of you it seems that is your conclusion. Isn't that rather sad? But Tony M is actually very happy - it was very cheap to do, so where is the con?
Terry hasn't been here for years, maybe he could come over and report here - I know he will be surprised, but it will be his report, his words, and Terry I know does not take dictation. 🙂
And Terry, talk to Clay Giseler, he is so convinced he is using it in his Klein DAC, so is Michael Lenehan and Tony Wong. These guys were telling us for years that delta-sigma DACs don't cut it and now are saying they realise that they can actually sound better than ladder DACs. So, if you don't trust me, get in touch with those guys. They are not imagining things.
Cheers, Joe
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so someone posted the unit so was without it for some days? It came back 'upgraded' and he said it sounded better? Just checking.
Yes, I know where this is going. Tony can't be believed. Like I said, very sad.
Has the world really become this distrustful?
It seems you have the ability to put this to the test yourself. It's cheap, it's simple, where is the con?
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So, still no data, just anecdotes to promote yourself and your business. Is there anyone peddling quack nostrums who doesn't have testimonials?
You're better than that, Joe. Man up and put your hypothesis to the test. Don't fear the possibility that it might have to be discarded- that's what "open-mindedness" means. That's the essence of intellectual integrity.
You're better than that, Joe. Man up and put your hypothesis to the test. Don't fear the possibility that it might have to be discarded- that's what "open-mindedness" means. That's the essence of intellectual integrity.
Given aural memory, no his testimony can't be trusted. Not sad, just how it is.
I cannot put this to the test as I don't have a suitable pair of DACs. If the ODAC was suitable a pair of those would be affordable and suitable to post around to various people as a pair of sealed boxes, which would be fun.
The only conviction I'm worried about regards underage girls when I was a teenager; I'm not sure of the statute of limitations. However, you're doing a fine job of converting me from a skeptic to a cynic.
Man up and put the hypothesis to the test.
Man up and put the hypothesis to the test.
Sorry SY, but I can not see any of your real contributions to this thread/subject, since you start posting here. Only repeated (obsessive) claims for tests/measurements/results.
DIY!
DIY!
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
Foot-stamping, whining, excuse-making, and commercial testimonials are not substitutes for evidence. That's what separates charlatans (and their shills) from honest experimenters. I'm urging Joe to be the latter, but he seems determined not to.
Foot-stamping, whining, excuse-making, and commercial testimonials are not substitutes for evidence. That's what separates charlatans (and their shills) from honest experimenters. I'm urging Joe to be the latter, but he seems determined not to.
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