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Old 3rd February 2004, 08:32 AM   #1
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Question Marantz...CD50...CD52...CD60....

Can anybody tell me what is the differences between theese Marantz players.

-Quality
-DAC
-Lasertype CDM ??
-"useless" functions...I want a player a "clean" player with as little unnessesary functions as possible/ few buttons !?, but remote is a MUST !!
-Headphones/ volumecontrols...rather not...
Etc.

What about the CD 72 MKII, how do this differ from the pack over ?

If I buy a Philips instead (easyer to get hand on... )
Is a CD 690/692 a decent choice when planning to mod it to some kind of I2S direct to DAC player.

Is the Philips CD 880 the little brother to CD 960 ???

Need some advice in the jungle of good/ notsogood players for my needs

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Old 3rd February 2004, 08:47 AM   #2
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CD50 is tda1541a dac with cdm4/19 transport.
CD52 is saa7350 dac with cdm4/19 transport.

CD60 is tda1541a and cdm4/19 again i think.

se versions have upgraded elna cerafine power supply caps usually.

CD72MKII is different, uses tda1547 (DAC7) chipset with cdm4/19.
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Old 3rd February 2004, 02:39 PM   #3
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cd880 is a brother to ccd882, 880 has 4x TDA1541S2 and CDM1 I think, 882 was without dac for use with digital amp or stand alone dac. They were made after the 960.
http://www.geocities.com/ineedtogets...82_dfu_nld.pdf
http://www.geocities.com/ineedtogets...82_dfu_eng.pdf
As for the cd692, it has a CDM9 and extended controls so I'm sure something nice can be build with it. It has some kind of bitstream setup, not sure wich as I'm in the proces of changing boxes. EDIT probably SAA7350.
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Old 3rd February 2004, 03:39 PM   #4
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880 has 4x TDA1541S2 and CDM1 I think
What????

Where did you get that information? Are you sure?
Four times S2 versions and CDM1.
I don't think so.

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Old 3rd February 2004, 03:42 PM   #5
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Originally posted by frenzic
cd880 is a brother to ccd882, 880 has 4x TDA1541S2 and CDM1 I think, 882 was without dac for use with digital amp or stand alone dac. They were made after the 960.
http://www.geocities.com/ineedtogets...82_dfu_nld.pdf
http://www.geocities.com/ineedtogets...82_dfu_eng.pdf
As for the cd692, it has a CDM9 and extended controls so I'm sure something nice can be build with it. It has some kind of bitstream setup, not sure wich as I'm in the proces of changing boxes. EDIT probably SAA7350.
CD880 has only one TDA as far as i know. Can remember an article on the eringa modification, where they feed the dac with a power from the 'filter' (this was a new outputstate with it's own PS, but still opamp based). There was a version for the marantz cd40 and for the philips cd880.

And it has a cdm1mk2, which is a different thing than the original cdm1. Think more of a metal cdm2 or cdm4/31 with same plastic laser assembly.

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Old 3rd February 2004, 03:50 PM   #6
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It neither looks like CDM1/II nor 4 times TDA1541A/S2 here:

http://eddie.dyec.com.tw/diy-demo/au...lips_cd880.htm


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Old 3rd February 2004, 03:50 PM   #7
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What????

Where did you get that information? Are you sure?
Four times S2 versions and CDM1.
I don't think so.

Bartek
Nope, don't think so. One S1 and cdm1mk2 is more like it.

Marantz cd7 has (only?) two S2's:
Picture of Marantz CD7 with Double Crown

Players with four 1541's existed as far as i can remember, cambridge audio or some other uk brand ???? Remember
the dac's on separate mounted sub-pcb's....

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Cambridge Audio CD-2

4 times TDA1541 (I think without "A") and CDM 2 mechanics.

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Old 3rd February 2004, 04:06 PM   #9
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Originally posted by zygibajt
It neither looks like CDM1/II nor 4 times TDA1541A/S2 here:

http://eddie.dyec.com.tw/diy-demo/au...lips_cd880.htm


Bartek
Nice picture, indeed one S1 bottom left. Look at the crown stamp
on the chip. not at the bottom right, but middle right. And the S1
stamp is right after the part number. Guess it is genuine, but
different than all the previous pics :->

Above the DAC is the 7220 filter, with the xtal above it covered
to minimize vibrations. decoder 7210 (?) to the right of it.

It is the first philips player i see where the decoding microprocessor has an outboard eprom (and RAM?). The display micro (top left) could have also one below it (PROM).

So maybe the first player i see where all the parts could be replaced (if you read the (e)proms and store the internal code), except the display i guess.

The transport looks like my cd2, and i think there is a cd in there.
So it could be a metal cdm1mk2 underneath!

Looks like a nice player for modding. Can also remember that the reviewer thought that the eringa modified cd880 was quite good, but that the stock marantz cd80 was even better...!

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Originally posted by zygibajt
Cambridge Audio CD-2

4 times TDA1541 (I think without "A") and CDM 2 mechanics.

Bartek
Thanx, my memory is not so bad.

The post looks like a chatroom :->

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