What is the best VRDS on Teac-Players ?

[Cobra2]

http://www.dalbani.co.uk/catalogue/p...s.php?id=16807

Arne K

[kyrill]

Hi Arne

How can I find out which (SONY?) laserunit I need for my Copland?
I seemt to have the latest cd 288 and hear rumours that it has the better TEAC 25 transport as oppose to the VDRS 10?

: )
Kyrill

[bambadoo]

The copland cda288 uses the kss-240a

The vrds mechanism in the copland is the cmk 4. Not the same as in vrds 10 or vrds 25.

[kyrill]

bambadoo
thanks
But I see you as well Arne made pictures from inside. So I will look inside to see if I can see white sticker as well.

Will it also be so easy to find out which TEAC transport the player utililises?

: )
K

[Cobra2]

What a pity...I taught the Copland had a good type...

Arne K

[PTSOUNDLAB]

Hello,

could somebody tell me wich laserunit I must buy for a VRDS 10 SE please ?
I think that it's this one http://www.donberg.ie/descript/k/kss151a.htm but I'm not sure ?

Thanks

Pascal

[Crossy]

Guido & all,
I really would like to understand the VRDS series composition better..

VRDS 20 is a souped up VRDS 10 - both are transport + DAC
VRDS T1 is the "transport only" version of the VRDS 10 it seems, right ?

all of these originated around 1993

Now the VRDS 25 is of newer date and there's a special version, the VRDS 25x which features some "selected" components

From some sources on the web I do read that the VRDS P70 model is the transport-only version of the VRDS 25

now what about the VRDS X1, VRDS X2, VRDS T2 and VRDS P30 ? how do these stack up against the rest ? I know in the US a part of these players/transports were marketed under the high end "Esoteric Audio" brand..

Also it seems that the VRDS 7 is one to avoid, some posters claim it has "plastic" platter. What about the others - do they have metal platter ?

any input appreciated
CROSSY

[Guido Tent]

Originally posted by Crossy
Guido & all,
I really would like to understand the VRDS series composition better..

VRDS 20 is a souped up VRDS 10 - both are transport + DAC
VRDS T1 is the "transport only" version of the VRDS 10 it seems, right ?

all of these originated around 1993

Now the VRDS 25 is of newer date and there's a special version, the VRDS 25x which features some "selected" components

From some sources on the web I do read that the VRDS P70 model is the transport-only version of the VRDS 25

now what about the VRDS X1, VRDS X2, VRDS T2 and VRDS P30 ? how do these stack up against the rest ? I know in the US a part of these players/transports were marketed under the high end "Esoteric Audio" brand..

Also it seems that the VRDS 7 is one to avoid, some posters claim it has "plastic" platter. What about the others - do they have metal platter ?

any input appreciated
CROSSY

Hi

The T1 uses the transport of the VRDS 8/9. This is a cost down of the transport used in the 10/20/25.

Straight from the box the T1 sounds beter than a 10, don't ask me why, but the 8/9 and T1 show more mechanical failures.

best

[Crossy]

Guido,
many thanx - much appreciated..

looks like the actual composition of the VRDS drive mechanisms of the P30, the P70 and the X1 or X2 still remain a "mystery" ..

rgrds
CROSSY

[dougigs]

I'm glad this thread has come back to life. I have an Esoteric P-700 which I've been using as my main transport for a while, and I'm interested in mods -- all I've done is replaced the RCA out with a BNC. If anyone can shed some light on that digital servo improvement mentioned above, let me know.

Also, Guido et al: How much trouble is it to put a new clock in this thing? I've got one of your clocks in my DAC (a PCM63K unit); I'm sure you'd argue that it's worth reclocking this transport, too, but how accessible is it?

Third: How good is the digital output transformer/pre-transformer padding on this thing?

Finally: Big flaw with VDRS players is that they have high mechanical noise -- i.e. you can hear them spinning if you're within a couple metres of them (assuming there's a quiet passage on). I HAVE done a lot of mods to this end - - damping sheets inside, Sorbothene, etc, but it's still not silent. Thoughts?