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Old 28th January 2004, 01:59 PM   #1
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Question CDM9...Marantz

I was looking to bye me a "new" CDP, and had decided to go for a player with a CDM9 laser, becauce of it probably is newer, and not so tired.
Then thinking that a Marantz would be my best bet in the choice between Philips and Marantz, at least I like the look better with the Marantz players....

But I can't find any Marantz using CDM9 !?
Seems to me like they jumped from CDM4 directly to CDM12 lasers, is this true ?

If I could get hold of a new laser to the CDM4, wouldn't this be a better choice anyway, for instance a CD62 (think it was named this), or preferably a Marantz CD72 MKII ???

The CD72 MKII is the most expensive/best Marantz using CDM4, isn't it ?

Need some guidance.... pleeeease

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Old 28th January 2004, 02:06 PM   #2
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The CD72 II SE is the best choice IMO

I don't think that Marantz made players with the CDM-9


The CD62 is a good choice too, I have one. If you want to change the dac and output stage it's a good choice, since it has a separate board for this, you just have to change it and build your own
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Old 28th January 2004, 04:00 PM   #3
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Hi!
äh, only for my interest, where would you place the Marantz CD50SE, if you know that player?

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Old 28th January 2004, 04:06 PM   #4
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I don't know it's sound quality, but it looks like the CD62's father

The same chassis, same 2 board conception, but with a TDA1541.
It could even be a better starting base for a diyer
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Old 28th January 2004, 05:04 PM   #5
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yeah, actually itīs the best iīve ever heared through my Headphonesīs
Wow, itīs the best buy iīve ever made, costs: 19,5€
I donīt want to solder it to dead, this one I will never get anymore for this money ;-)

Plans: replace 5532 with AD826 or OP2604.... make the GND plane more solid... Kwak Clock, if Iīll ever make a smd-pcb for it...
Today I bought the vifa ringradiators, they are also
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Old 28th January 2004, 05:07 PM   #6
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yeah, actually itīs the best iīve ever heared through my Headphonesīs
Wow, itīs the best buy iīve ever made, costs: 19,5€
I donīt want to solder it to dead, this one I will never get anymore for this money ;-)

Plans: replace 5532 with AD826 or OP2604.... make the GND plane more solid... Kwak Clock, if Iīll ever make a smd-pcb for it...
Today I bought the vifa ringradiators, they are also

yes, change the opamps. maybe a discrete i/v and new caps later...
you can add a clock, try the non-os mod
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Old 28th January 2004, 05:28 PM   #7
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Hi Bricolo!

I have already tried NON-OS with a standalone TDA1541A feed by an Envy24 PC.... I really prefer the marantz....
I would not go the non-os way if you look at the frequency diagramm of the vifa XT25... otherwise Iīll need a steep post-filter (but anyway, itīs worth a try)

Is it the transport? I have a older sony player with "TDA1541a==>I/V via AD8620==>my ClassA HP amp"
where I changed the lytic caps almost all to Panasonic FC....
No chance for the Sony.... It must be the transport OR ME ;-)

Today I listened to a Accuphase CD75... hah, thatīs not my beer, even If I could get it also so cheap....


btw, it uses the "standard" setup: SAA7220B-TDA1541A-NE5532
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Old 28th January 2004, 07:10 PM   #8
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Just wondering....???

What is the originally DAC in the CD72 MKII ?
..and the CD62 ?

Any Marantz with the pcm63 DAC ??????
...don't think so, but I'll have to ask to bee 100% sure.....
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Old 28th January 2004, 07:14 PM   #9
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Just wondering....???

What is the originally DAC in the CD72 MKII ?
..and the CD62 ?

Any Marantz with the pcm63 DAC ??????
...don't think so, but I'll have to ask to bee 100% sure.....

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Old 28th January 2004, 07:30 PM   #10
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Lyra,
I don't know any Marantz with CDM 9 ,but I had a players with this transport and the laser lens dies really quick!
I think CDM4 and CDM 1/MKII lasers last much lomger,and I also heard that te first CDM 1 is almost indestructible ,lasting many,many years.

The players with CDM 9 I know are:
Philips 930/931 and Philips 950/951 but these two are not that good for modding ,having many errors and ground loops on PCB.

The other players are Arcam 70.2 and Arcam Alpha 5 and Arcam Alpha 5+.
Also Naim CD 3 and CD 2

I laso thought about using the player with cdm 9 for modding,becouse I had a chance to buy new CDM 9 spare lenses very cheap,but after taking look at build quality of CDM 1 I prefer CDM 1.I think it's build quality is much better.
For now I'm using CDM 1/MKII,having no problem with spare lasers as CDM 4/19 laser is a direct replacement and works great (this is actually the same laser/arm).
I have heard that CDM1 is even better,so I'm going to try it as soon as I find a good cd player that is equipped with it.
I also think there won't be a lot of problems with spare laser in case of CDM 1.There are many old ,cheap Philips players that I can buy just to get the working laser,and it last very long.

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