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Old 16th January 2004, 04:25 PM   #11
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lyra
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Just wonder....what is <dietiest>. Not familiar with this word

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Old 16th January 2004, 04:31 PM   #12
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Just wonder....what is <dietiest>. Not familiar with this word

Lars Clausen: Adjustment....can I do this myself ?. Does all clocks have this ? If I build a Kwak-Clock later, does this have to be adjusted also ? .....and if I get a XO3 later, will I hear any difference ?, and if I do...how much??
Hi Lyra,
I guess Lars meant dirtiest!. The r is next to the e on my keyboard.
The KWAK-CLOCK needs no frequency adjustment but if you insist you can mount a 40-100 pF trimmer in series with the crystal. Arne made a post about that:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...652#post251652
I can't hear the very slight frequency deviation, but who am I?
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Old 19th January 2004, 05:35 PM   #13
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And there I got my used Philips DVD 711 including ZAPFilter Mk2, and XO Clock2.
It plays music very well !!

My thought was to pick out the zapfilter, and XO2-clock, and mount this in my good old trusty Denon DCD-2560.

But if I do that the Philips will be dead, cause I dont got the schematics, and dont know how the original clock configuration should be....

Do the XO-clock help the player in any way when used as DVD-player only ?

Can anybody help me out here ? pleeeease

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Old 20th January 2004, 07:18 AM   #14
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In most modern DVD players (budget models) a low jitter clock will not help a lot.
They contain "Multi-Clock Generators" that set the jitter values, independant of the quality of the input frequency.

It's fairly easy to remove the XO2 from the DVD, IF you have the (original) crystal and some small capacitors (pF), probably SMD's.
You mount the crystal and capacitors there where the XO feeds to, should be very obvious to locate...

Same applies for the output stuff, you know where the ZAP connects to...
As long as the original opamps and passives are still on the board. Otherwise it will get more difficult without schematics...

I get the feeing you did not install the Lcaudio stuff in this Philips ?
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Old 20th January 2004, 08:03 AM   #15
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As long as the original opamps and passives are still on the board. Otherwise it will get more difficult without schematics...

I get the feeing you did not install the Lcaudio stuff in this Philips ?
Right...I didn't install this stuff in the Philips. I bought it used (cheap/ aprox 120 Euro) just for the parts. The DVD-player was told to be cranky/ defect, but it works perfect !!!
I want to use the LCAudio stuff in my good old Denon player. Think it would make more sense there !?

The ZAPFilter is mounted in paralell to the original output on the Philips (think the DA got voltage-output) ( it is sound on both outputs). I have tried both mounted to different inputs on my preamp, and it is a extremely HUGE difference in sound. Difficult to find words regarding the difference but when playing with the original outputs, it sounds like I play music with my loudspeakers packed in stuffed closed cartons......or submerged in my bathtub.....
The difference is like a good HiFi versus a crappy ghettoblaster....i think...or do I...

But...when I mount the ZAPFilter in the Denon it got a DA-converter with I-output......
Should I cut the traces going to the old I/V stage, and mount the ZAPFilter according to LCAudio site ?
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Old 20th January 2004, 12:17 PM   #16
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It's fairly easy to remove the XO2 from the DVD, IF you have the (original) crystal and some small capacitors (pF), probably SMD's.
You mount the crystal and capacitors there where the XO feeds to, should be very obvious to locate...
Could I use the caps removed from my CDP where the clock is going ?
Isn't the value of theese caps important ?

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