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Old 12th March 2014, 02:29 PM   #1
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I'm all for the project. But the hype is insane.

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I agree that it's lots of hype, but I don't think it's insane. Folks are tired of music that sounds bad.

The Pono is using the ESS Sabre 9018 DAC chip (best currently available) and the audio and filter circuits were designed by Charles Hansen from Ayre with attention paid to phase response. I also read someplace that it uses a discrete output stage with zero feedback that was likely originally designed by Meridian.

They went for the absolute highest quality audio they could from a portable player.

It's very cool and I'm excited. It's about time we had something portable that pushes the envelope!

"Our goal was to offer the highest quality digital music available from all the major labels with the world's greatest sounding, user-friendly portable music player."

I like "ecosystem" concept of releasing a high-end player with a significant amount of 24/192 FLAC source material. It will be the iTunes for high-end portable audio.

Pretty cool and long overdue!

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Old 12th March 2014, 03:08 PM   #3
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It's very cool and I'm excited. It's about time!
So it really is good huh? Finally there is something fancier than toblerone on this earth!

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From everything I can tell, it's "real". Meaning they're not marketing a bunch of BS.

I think it's far better than anything else that is available right now on the portable market. Time will tell. Until I hear it in person, can't say for sure.

I do like the idea that it is DESIGNED to output to home and car stereo systems. I has a line out jack in addition to a headphone jack. I've heard the ESS Sabre chip in person and know how good it sounds, so this thing really does have huge potential. And no, I don't have any affiliation with the company, just excited to at the idea of high-end audio making a comeback and VERY excited that it's portable.

Hopefully it will be really cool and exceed the hype!
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I like "ecosystem" concept of releasing a high-end player with a significant amount of 24/192 FLAC source material. It will be the iTunes for high-end portable audio.
Playing the FLACs I have with something else but my mobile phone (with no sd slot) is already a good thing. I am glad the "default" for the pono is FLAC and not some proprietary format. And it is a good thing they got rid of the DRM ideas.

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I agree!

And while the 128 gig won't hold 5000 24/192 songs, it will hold between 200-800 and I think that should be enough. Especially considering that it has a removable SD memory card so one could load various libraries on various cards.

I do think they did their homework.

Apparently is also plays most if not all of the other formats as well.

It will be interesting to learn if it will also play DSD. I haven't seen anything about that yet.
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I think it's far better than anything else that is available right now on the portable market.
That remains to be seen. It's still far behind the FiiO X5 in user options though, and I sincerely doubt it will perform much better than that, if at all.

I like the underlying idea of the Pono. Implementation and design of the physical player is hopelessly outdated though.
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It's interesting to watch the kickstarter campaign take off. It exceeded their goal in under 8 hours and will likely double it in less than 24. I would submit there is HUGE interest by the public in this. Folks might not realize how bad their music is really sounding, but they do "get" that it doesn't sound very good.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...iscovers-music

Also, watch the "message from our founder" video on this page and listen to what the musicians have to say about how it sounds. I think that is by-far the most interesting:

PONO

Again, I have NO relationship to the company in any way. Just excited that somebody is trying to interest the public in high-end audio.
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Implementation and design of the physical player is hopelessly outdated though.
I don't mind an outdated look. But it's a pity I think that there is no next/back button...and all navigation will probably be through the touchscreen. (Volume buttons are present though)

In the end...I know I would have jumped on the kickstarter campaign if I was a "mobile" listener. Main reason I posted though is that I could not bear to completely watch the promo of the pono. With all the artists raving about it. After all....I've "seen" it all before with Herbert von Karajan proclaiming "all else is gaslight" when the CD came out.

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I'm excited about the hi-res material though. The player, not so much. FiiO have with their X series players been offering hi-end audio quality players for a long time now, and have with the X5 a far better overall product than the Pono player look to be when it eventually comes out. The X5 already have support for DSD, and all major lossless formats. It also have a usable UI and can even be used as a portable USB DAC.

I'll sure give the Pono player a look when it eventually comes out but I'm not getting my hopes up that it'll live up to expectations.
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