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Old 17th August 2012, 01:51 PM   #211
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C9 i made quite high, 8200uF.
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Old 17th August 2012, 03:01 PM   #212
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should you not gnd the transistors for the base currents to get a GND lock on it somewhere...??
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Old 17th August 2012, 03:03 PM   #213
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should you not gnd the transistors for the base currents to get a GND lock on it somewhere...??
it was an error i already delete the posts.
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Old 17th August 2012, 03:04 PM   #214
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I think the distortion is caused by Cob and Zout of Q1/Q4/Q13/Q14 ,not base current.
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Old 17th August 2012, 03:10 PM   #215
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I think the distortion is caused by Cob and Zout of Q1/Q4/Q13/Q14 ,not base current.
You have to make the voltage stable in the up and down nodes if you want to achieve very low distortion, i think i know how to do that, but today i have no time. Next week.
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Old 17th August 2012, 09:07 PM   #216
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Joachim,

Re post #208, you are basically back to the original Leach design :

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With all its pro's and con's.


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Old 17th August 2012, 10:01 PM   #217
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Yes, Patrick, on the surface it looks like the Leach but the bias transistors do something different.
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Old 17th August 2012, 10:06 PM   #218
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The bias transistor is like that of Hawksford, right ?

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Old 17th August 2012, 10:22 PM   #219
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The Hawsford is more complex i think. Q2 is tied to the supply and Q3 feeds back ( forward ? ) to the input transistor.
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Old 17th August 2012, 10:28 PM   #220
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As i see circuit pots 208 the bias transistors sense the base current of the input transistors and add them to the other polarity of the output.
In the Leach the bases of the input transistors are simply held on a constant potential.
I use an optimized Leach input stage in my Nobrainer Phono. That does not have a floating supply though and filters and clamps the base current of the input transistors to ground for a 3dB noise advantage. Here the big electrolytic does that job.
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