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Old 9th April 2012, 11:27 AM   #21
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Does anyone know of a product or kit that can output spdif and play lossless files. It has to be able to work on it's own so a computer will not work. Any ideas?
If you want to compare 24/96 to CD quality files without a PC:
Probably not what you are after, but it's almost free (if you have a DVD/Blu-ray player).
if you want to play 24 bit files without buying any new kit without a PC you can burn flac files 24/48 and 24/96 to a DVD disc for playback on a DVD or Blu-ray player with optical spdif.

I just did this with Lplex.
lplex | Free software downloads at SourceForge.net

Drag and drop 24/48 and 24/96 flac files onto the Lpex executable, burn them with a program like DVDDecrypter. Tracks will run with the screen off. for instance I have Peter Gabriel New blood 24/48 sitting on a dvd ready to compare to the CD, FWIW (Great album either way).
You can cycle through the tracks with your players remote.

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Old 9th April 2012, 01:38 PM   #22
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I said here that 44.1 and 48kHz are bit-perfect on WDTV Live with the latest firmware.
It does however resample the 96 and 192 to 48kHz. And, with the current firmware doesn't output the 88.2 or 176.4kHz. It used to work on previous firmwares, but then the 44.1 wasn't bitperfect, so they "fixed" one and broke two
I didn't think the wdtv had an internal hard drive. What size is the hard drive and will it play 24/96k flac as well?
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Old 9th April 2012, 06:27 PM   #23
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Takes an USB-connected HDD or network (ethernet) share.
For internal HDD they have WDTV Live Hub.
I am not trying to "sell" nothing, there are many similar media players with better or worse features. This is what I settled with for now.
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Just the thought of having to use a mediaplayer for playing audio over the TV speakers.... The horror ! That would be the end of the hobby for me.

Marc, you should experiment somewhat more with low jitter stuff. I have to admit that the motto "garbage in, garbage out" is less valid with the newer DAC chips with jitter reduction techniques but still...

A good source is the base for good audio. Room acoustics is an entirely different thing (but also important).
there are also things like the i2s/spdif fifo from here that make jitter from the computer pretty much a thing of the past, then if you want to take it another step, you have SoTM tX-USB which provides a linear supply (as well as inputs for your own supply) on your USB, ground lift, decent clocks for the usb itself. no experience of this device, but as ive said a few days ago in case you have shilling senses tingling, I find it intriguing, if a bit pricey

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Old 9th April 2012, 10:14 PM   #25
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Hi, I see I really am old fashioned but I like dedicated gear that does what is can do at its best. There are a lot of mediocre quality things in life as cost is the most important factor for many. So I like stand alone machines that sound excellent. In my humble opinion computers can do all kinds of things nicely but I like my music to be played on a RF free, fanless, screenless device that can be operated with one hand or a remote. In all the listening sessions I had with friends they were occupied for hours with "settings" and when their noisy sources lost from old gear I always got an excuse afterwards that is was the very same "settings" that were to blame. It also took a long preparation time for them to start and I was glad my room was empty again after the listening.

No snobbism here but when you work with computers you also get distracted easily. At least I do. So the extra cost is no problem for me. There are extra costs involved when one wants to use a computer with good results too. Always extra devices for this and that...you end up with all kinds of flashy devices and cabling everywhere.
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Old 10th April 2012, 12:49 AM   #26
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I keep my PC in a different room than the one with the media player (livingroom), so there is no noise from it. And I have one ethernet cable and one SPDIF attached to it.

In my bedroom I have another setup with "real" CD/SACD players, I am not exclusive
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right now I am looking for my car.
http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=...25983756&prc=5

Price in Chinese money 268rmb - which translates to around $43. I'm ordering one just to use as a test tone generator (I don't have a car)
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It's at 24V...
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There are two versions - 12 and 24V. Also there's a more expensive one with Aux-In and different amp chips.
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I don't know how can you trust it as a generator, it probably has one of those horrible sigma-delta dacs...
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