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Old 5th April 2012, 02:14 PM   #11
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Just the thought of having to use a mediaplayer for playinmg audio over the TV speakers.... The horror !
I agree, that's why you don't! Use a HiFi setup for audio reproduction and a TV to select the tracks not to make sound, use the TV as a monitor...
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Old 5th April 2012, 05:27 PM   #12
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Cheap means lots of jitter + the need for a TV to play audio as they are meant for video.
You use the TV just to navigate thru player menu. Output is/can be separated, via HDMI or SPDIF, straight to your high-quality DAC.

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Exactly, that's what I do... Sounds great!
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Aune Audio in China make such devices. See auneaudio.com. They have a good reputation but seem a bit pricy. A number of the Chinese web-based sellars should stock them.
The Mini APE Series i sort of what I am looking for but it is too expensive. There isn't anything like the minty mp3 that plays FLAC? I don't need anything fancy or ultra high end. Just something I can use to send a spdif signal to my Audison bit one.
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You use the TV just to navigate thru player menu. Output is/can be separated, via HDMI or SPDIF, straight to your high-quality DAC.

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So that is 3 devices for one goal (or even 4 if a separate hard disk is used). IMO one box that has all and would have the sole purpose of playing various audio files the best way it can would :

- have less jitter
- sound better for various reasons
- have a smaller footprint
- have no interfacing/matching problems or challenges
- be less complex
- take less space in terms of height
- use less power
- have less wiring or no wiring at all except for outputs
- have a big chance of producing less noise i.e. non audio sound like hard disk/fan noise

It would probably be easier to operate as well (and don't underestimate the looks). Take it as a "kaizen" approach if you like. But that would probably a too simple device with not enough tweakability in the cabling area

I now see that DJNUBZ wishes a non fancy device so I better keep my mouth shut.
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Old 5th April 2012, 10:31 PM   #16
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Jean-paul I want something like that for my house but right now I am looking for my car.

I think that once the raspberry PI is released, you will be able to do a project like you are talking about very easily.
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Optical devices against hardisk based devices = no competition....
Oppo has usb and network connection ;-) think the bd drive as a bonus.
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Bonus? It's 10 times more expensive.
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I just checked my WDTV Live because of a rumour that it resamples from 44.1 to something else. Hooked up to an SRC2496, I got 44.1 from FLAC files (CD rips), and varying sample rates from streaming internet sources.

As for the need for a TV... watch out for broken portable DVD players, car video screens, and the add-on mini LCD screens made for game consoles. Very often those can be readily modified to be used with regular composite video. Also check out car audio dealers... you may find demo models or old stock headrest or overhead LCD displays going cheap. Old camcorders may also have usable displays.

The range of streaming radio stations available now is extraordinary. I was just listening to Japan and Israel, plus a college radio station I used to enjoy when I lived nearby. I couldn't tell the bitrate, but I'd say the quality was better than satellite radio.

Anyway, I think jitter rejection is the responsiblity of a competently designed DAC.
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I said here that 44.1 and 48kHz are bit-perfect on WDTV Live with the latest firmware.
It does however resample the 96 and 192 to 48kHz. And, with the current firmware doesn't output the 88.2 or 176.4kHz. It used to work on previous firmwares, but then the 44.1 wasn't bitperfect, so they "fixed" one and broke two
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