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Old 29th December 2011, 09:57 PM   #41
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I guess you never did listen to a SACD, all the experience you have about it is from this forum.
Have fun with that great DAC that can play PCM 96kHz at superior 16 bit resolution... because that how much it can do per MANUFACTURER specs, not what some magazin claims they measured.
Even this guess is very wrong
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Old 30th December 2011, 03:51 AM   #42
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Yawn... You forgot to mention that Nyquist was wrong!
No it's not me saying that

It's modern audio PCM industry that neglects Nyquist & implements:
"128x, 256x oversampling rates are available in current flagship audio converters "

Nyquist theorem says you cannot retrieve more than 20KHz from a 40KHz audiostream

That is why SACD contains more than 2MHz of real samples.
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Old 30th December 2011, 04:00 AM   #43
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That is why SACD contains more than 2MHz of real samples.
And you think this is because of good old Nyquist?
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Old 30th December 2011, 02:54 PM   #44
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No it's not me saying that

It's modern audio PCM industry that neglects Nyquist & implements:
"128x, 256x oversampling rates are available in current flagship audio converters "

Nyquist theorem says you cannot retrieve more than 20KHz from a 40KHz audiostream

That is why SACD contains more than 2MHz of real samples.
Always interesting how people pull numbers without any relations and think to argue in a way. Also i still donīt get why you bash this oversampling all the time!?
DSD is nothing else but strong noise shaped "Highly Oversampled" data!
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The point is that dsd is high rate REAL samples, not mathmatically fudged interpolated samples like OS PCM. I'm not arguing better or worse, since, as I said before, I have not heard a valid comparison of the high res formats vs each other or vs cd format, but I do get his point. Real samples are completely natural sound events, not mathmatical guesses.
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