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Old 10th November 2011, 08:56 PM   #71
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I've been trying for years to find some sort of specification of the burning commands that most drives must implement in order for all burning software to talk to all drives. If anyone has a link, such a spec should answer a lot of these questions about how much control is available.

Maybe there are multiple ways to burn. It could be that there's a command that passes off full control to the drive firmware, and another command that allows more control.

On that note, I know that a few brands of burning drives allow more than two seconds of audio before the first track (a hidden track feature used on quite a few pressed CDs). This requires a special command that is not implemented on the average drive, and thus it won't work everywhere. I've been trying to find documentation for this command - but no luck so far. Most generic burning API will not implement this because it won't work everywhere, but I'd really like to be able to use the feature for live recordings. So, if anyone has information, please post a link - it should answer many questions if we could find a specification.

Having that info would be great, I read that usually the first part of the burning process gets more of the speed to cope with TOC and the opening of the session, then slows a bit for the rest of the track then picks up again for closing the session.

I used s software not long ago, that gave you the choice of gap you wanted to introduce. Nothing big, I think the maximum was about 4 seconds.

But nothing like on pressed cd's where you get minutes of silence before a track, like in Nirvana's Nevermind, where you have around 6 minutes of silence before a hidden track. Which according to what I've read, was left out of the disc by accident, then Kobain and the rest of the band demanded it to have it back on the next batch of cd's.

So if you ever find a Nevermind w/o the hidden track (original and from the 90's) you might have a rare disc.
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I too have always understood the original format was 74 minutes...

Many years ago (I guess around 1985) in the early years of CD I attended a 3 day residential course at Sony UK in Thatcham and where we pulled the theory and number crunching apart.

I remember clearly mentioning to the instructor about a new CD release that had the playing time of 76' 57'' (Rachmaninov preludes, Nimbus NI5094) and his comments were that it violated the original standard and so would not be guaranteed to play on all players. In fact more than that, at first he found it hard to believe such a CD existed but wanted all the details so he could obtain a copy. I have recollections of it creating a stir in the hifi press at the time too.

The longest disc I have now is a Deutsche Grammophon (459-362-2) which has a playing time of 79' 21" and it plays perfectly on my old Micromega... haven't tried it on the Marantz Pearl Lite yet... if it hiccups I'll be back
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