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Piersma 27th August 2003 10:02 AM

C.e.c. Tl51
Hi everybody,

Recently i own a C.E.C. TL51 and i am not really satisfied with the performance of this machine. Although the sound is open, clear and bright, the TL51 is lacking (a lot off) punch. Has anyone on the forum experienced the same ?
The C.E.C has already been modified with a shunt power-supply and some other minor modifications but the the TL51 is lacking body.

Any comments would be welcome.


frenzic 27th August 2003 11:05 AM

I experienced the same problem with my philips cd950. Turns out there was a volume switch on the remote (not on the player) wich assumed the default position after being removed from mains. Default being 1 marking away from total digital silence. It was realy lacking punch, even after a two week burn-in period. Only when I stumbled across a suitable remote I found out that I didn't need to perform surgery. One never knows. Regards, frenzic

Elso Kwak 27th August 2003 04:01 PM

Bass Slam or Punch
Hi Piersma,
The lack of bass slam or punch of CD-sound has puzzled me for 12 years now!
I tried everything conceivable to improve it:
CLOCK, outputbuffers at the DAC, powersupply of the DAC etc. etc.
See also for a improvement for a DAC with the CS8412:
:confused: :bawling: :scratch:

Piersma 28th August 2003 02:06 PM

Not enough body
A little search brought me to the next site with the following quote on the C.E.C. TL51 quote:

The bass sounded sloppy, undefined, and not well extended --All looks and NO brains we shouted !

Thanks for the comments sofar, more comments would be appreciated.


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