SACD ripping

metalsculptor · 26th October 2010, 10:01 AM

I just found the easily obtainable albums for 2 artists I like are only available on SACD, unless I learn a bit more Chinese. Digging a bit more and I find out it is a proprietry format and worse still encrypted meaning that when the manufacturer goes belly up or stops supporting it my music turns to junk due to a lack of player. Is there any easy way to rip it or would I be better learning some more Chinese and buying the CD's from China.

gk7 · 26th October 2010, 11:16 AM

I´m not aware of any tool that would let you rip SACDs, but most SACDs I´ve seen so far
are "Hybrid Layer" which means they contain a CD layer too (playable on a regular CD player and can be ripped as such of course).
Drawback is you will pay "SACD" and get "CD" unless you play it on a SACD player.

metalsculptor · 26th October 2010, 11:51 AM

Thanks that explains the hybr designation in the music description CD quality is fine at least they are usable.

okkyn · 26th October 2010, 12:01 PM

Some modified SACD player (like Oppo) can output digital PCM 24 bit/96 kHz through HDMI. Try google "HiResOrNothing"

dwk123 · 26th October 2010, 12:51 PM

Actually the Oppo players (at least the dvd players, not sure about the Blu Ray) convert DSD to 88.2K pcm when playing over hdmi. If you get an 'Atlona Hdmi de-embedder', it will pull the pcm data off of the HDMI feed and send it out via toslink which you can then record on your PC. It's a manual process, but it works. The Selah Audio/AVA room at RMAF was using this device and reported that it worked well.
There are other ways to mod gear to get up to 176k pcm from DSD, but those are pretty pricey.

Yves Smolders · 29th October 2010, 07:26 PM

Same with old PS3 ("fat") units. They output the SACD to HDMI @ 176?6khz (at very high quality - there's a story out there on the net about the guys who wrote the conversion code) - a HDMI to SPDIF solution will allow you to make a WAV out of it...

26th October 2010, 10:01 AM	#1
metalsculptor diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Melbourne	SACD ripping I just found the easily obtainable albums for 2 artists I like are only available on SACD, unless I learn a bit more Chinese. Digging a bit more and I find out it is a proprietry format and worse still encrypted meaning that when the manufacturer goes belly up or stops supporting it my music turns to junk due to a lack of player. Is there any easy way to rip it or would I be better learning some more Chinese and buying the CD's from China.

26th October 2010, 11:16 AM	#2
gk7 diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vienna / Austria	I´m not aware of any tool that would let you rip SACDs, but most SACDs I´ve seen so far are "Hybrid Layer" which means they contain a CD layer too (playable on a regular CD player and can be ripped as such of course). Drawback is you will pay "SACD" and get "CD" unless you play it on a SACD player. __________________ Regards, Georg

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26th October 2010, 11:51 AM	#3
metalsculptor diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Melbourne	Thanks that explains the hybr designation in the music description CD quality is fine at least they are usable.

26th October 2010, 12:01 PM	#4
okkyn diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bukit Panjang	Some modified SACD player (like Oppo) can output digital PCM 24 bit/96 kHz through HDMI. Try google "HiResOrNothing"

26th October 2010, 12:51 PM	#5
dwk123 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2002	Actually the Oppo players (at least the dvd players, not sure about the Blu Ray) convert DSD to 88.2K pcm when playing over hdmi. If you get an 'Atlona Hdmi de-embedder', it will pull the pcm data off of the HDMI feed and send it out via toslink which you can then record on your PC. It's a manual process, but it works. The Selah Audio/AVA room at RMAF was using this device and reported that it worked well. There are other ways to mod gear to get up to 176k pcm from DSD, but those are pretty pricey.

29th October 2010, 07:26 PM	#6
Yves Smolders diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Antwerp	Same with old PS3 ("fat") units. They output the SACD to HDMI @ 176?6khz (at very high quality - there's a story out there on the net about the guys who wrote the conversion code) - a HDMI to SPDIF solution will allow you to make a WAV out of it...