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Old 18th July 2010, 01:45 PM   #1
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Default Mhtz 33e cd payer

Hello to everyone !
Has anyone have any experience with the MHZS 33E cd player ?

First things fist the DA chip in that player does not look like a chip , there are no pins . Is this a fake chip all together ?
If the chip is fake how can the adjustable 44.1 to 96. be done? Is that all bull or what ? Then how does it convert D to A anyway ?

Number 2, does anyone have any Idea what opamps sound best in the
Unit, rt now there are BB 2604 , and tried LF 353N . To me the 353N had more bass but less clarity !

Is this player a fraud ??
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Old 18th July 2010, 02:55 PM   #2
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OPA2604 are better than LF353. Alternatives would be OPA2134, OPA1612, LM4562... Depends in some degree of the actual parts in place.

The mistery cip might be a DSP in a BGA form, so it won't have any visible pins. But who knows? A pic would help...
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Old 19th July 2010, 03:43 PM   #3
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Under neath the board looks like just some diodes
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Old 19th July 2010, 04:05 PM   #4
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Default Opamps

Is any needs any oamps I do have 3 .

SA5534NG , SA5534NP , LF353N
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Old 19th July 2010, 07:00 PM   #5
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Hi,

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Hello to everyone !
Has anyone have any experience with the MHZS 33E cd player ?
It is the little brother of the players covered by Lukasz here:

MHZS-CD66F_MHZS CD88

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First things fist the DA chip in that player does not look like a chip , there are no pins . Is this a fake chip all together ?
You mean this?

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Hi,

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Hello to everyone !
Has anyone have any experience with the MHZS 33E cd player ?
It is the little brother of the players covered by Lukasz here:

MHZS-CD66F_MHZS CD88

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does anyone have any Idea what opamps sound best in the Unit, rt now there are BB 2604 , and tried LF 353N . To me the 353N had more bass but less clarity !
Non at all. The DAC Chip is the same as in that famous 60 USD Toshiba DVD Player that was all the rage to mod a few years back.

The consensus was the sound was best straight from the DAC Chip via a single coupling Capacitor. I used earlier version of this chip (very little but some convenience features and the model number have changed since), the PCM1716 and can confirm this.

There is also a Vref or some such pin with a Capacitor on it (either one or one per channel - I'd have to check the datasheet), this is actually a "hidden" coupling capacitor (hidden unless you know what's inside the chip) and getting this right makes a huge difference, as does a good powersupply.

All that said, at it's best I found the sound quality from PCM1716 rather uninspiring and I have no reason to think the later versions materially improved.

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Is this player a fraud ??
You decide.

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Old 22nd July 2010, 09:20 PM   #6
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Hello to everyone !
Has anyone have any experience with the MHZS 33E cd player ?

First things fist the DA chip in that player does not look like a chip , there are no pins . Is this a fake chip all together ?
If the chip is fake how can the adjustable 44.1 to 96. be done? Is that all bull or what ? Then how does it convert D to A anyway ?

Number 2, does anyone have any Idea what opamps sound best in the
Unit, rt now there are BB 2604 , and tried LF 353N . To me the 353N had more bass but less clarity !

Is this player a fraud ??
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Old 22nd July 2010, 09:21 PM   #7
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Ok can anyone tell me why this player still puts out sound without the oamps in the player ?
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Old 27th July 2010, 08:06 PM   #8
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Ok can anyone tell me why this player still puts out sound without the oamps in the player ?
Thats what it look like in the 33e also , Can someone explain ?
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Old 28th July 2010, 01:00 AM   #9
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That's nice
I would ask for money back via PayPal...
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Old 28th July 2010, 01:54 AM   #10
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really why ? Enplane
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