Yamaha SACD CD S2000

Jozua · 17th July 2010, 01:57 PM

Hi

I am considering buying this player as I have quite a few SACD disks and I do not have a lot alternative SACD player options to choose from.

How does it compare with similar priced players?

All comments welcomed.

Jozua

Jozua · 18th July 2010, 06:38 AM

Hi

Most online reviews of this CD player sounds like adverts. Hopefully some S2000 owners could reply?

Thx.

JH

BTW · 01:57 PM

No experience with the CDP but have a look at this post... Quality should be similar to the Sony SCD-XA5400. Hope you find it useful....

Hi-Rez Highway: RE: Sony SCD-XA5400ES SACD Player - alternative in Australia and New Zealand by Joe Rasmussen

SoNic_real_one · 03:17 PM

It is a decent player. The DAC is PCM1792A (one per each channel, set in "mono" mode), I/V stage has OP275 (Japan/Europe) or NE5532 (US), diff/filter stage has NE5532...
I would definitely swap those OpAmps with something better.

The only thing that is bugging me is that the CD/SACD decoding is done by a general use uP (M30302) instead of one of Sony's specialized cips. Clock for it is a generic 10MHz one, so the processing must be async inside...
(My Denon has the Sony CXD2753 and my Toshiba has Philips SAA7893 as dedicated SACD decoders).
And that it is only stereo. My SACD player is stereo/surround and I definitely prefer the 5.1 versions of the albums. But that's just me.

Jozua · 18th July 2010, 09:45 PM

BTW and "SoNic"

Many thanks for that link. I am uncertain what is meant by a VSE upgrade?

I could only get the unit or 1 hour audition at home and it presented with a very nice sound stage. Nothing spectacular but definitely better than my 20 year old player.

Regards

Jozua

SoNic_real_one · 10:03 PM

"Vacuum State Electronics". Bull, IMHO...
Fitted with some nice OpAmps you will get better results (tubes aren't doing a good job as I/V conversion). You could try also some HDAM output stage (more expensive and not sure what improvement would provide compared with OpAmps like LM4562, ADA8559, OPA1642, etc...).

ihear21khz · 19th July 2010, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoNic_real_one

"Vacuum State Electronics". Bull, IMHO...
Fitted with some nice OpAmps you will get better results (tubes aren't doing a good job as I/V conversion). You could try also some HDAM output stage (more expensive and not sure what improvement would provide compared with OpAmps like LM4562, ADA8559, OPA1642, etc...).

Sorry but your opinion here is wrong. VSE don't use vacuum tubes in any of their SACD mods. And the main point of the modifications is to get rid of opamps in the analogue stage.

planet10 · 19th July 2010, 01:32 AM

Vacuum State's products are 1st class.

dave

Jozua · 19th July 2010, 07:58 AM

Planet10

Thanks for the VS link. It certainly opens new possibilities which I need to explore

My own CD player caps were replaced with Panasonic and that made an improvement but then I have heard expensive modified Theta players which afterwards sounded unmusical to me. So it quite important for me to audition a player versus reading reviews.

I also just heard that if I go the Yamaha route I possibly need to wait 4 months for a silver unit !

Jozua

SoNic_real_one · 07:57 PM

I am sure that a change of OpAmps will improve enough the signal, with less money.
Buy, hey, everyone does what they want with their cash

17th July 2010, 01:57 PM	#1
Jozua diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cape Town	Yamaha SACD CD S2000 Hi I am considering buying this player as I have quite a few SACD disks and I do not have a lot alternative SACD player options to choose from. How does it compare with similar priced players? All comments welcomed. Jozua

18th July 2010, 06:38 AM	#2
Jozua diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cape Town	2nd Comment Hi Most online reviews of this CD player sounds like adverts. Hopefully some S2000 owners could reply? Thx. JH

18th July 2010, 01:52 PM	#3
BTW diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Singapore	No experience with the CDP but have a look at this post... Quality should be similar to the Sony SCD-XA5400. Hope you find it useful.... Hi-Rez Highway: RE: Sony SCD-XA5400ES SACD Player - alternative in Australia and New Zealand by Joe Rasmussen Last edited by BTW; 18th July 2010 at 01:57 PM.

18th July 2010, 03:12 PM	#4
SoNic_real_one diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virginia	It is a decent player. The DAC is PCM1792A (one per each channel, set in "mono" mode), I/V stage has OP275 (Japan/Europe) or NE5532 (US), diff/filter stage has NE5532... I would definitely swap those OpAmps with something better. The only thing that is bugging me is that the CD/SACD decoding is done by a general use uP (M30302) instead of one of Sony's specialized cips. Clock for it is a generic 10MHz one, so the processing must be async inside... (My Denon has the Sony CXD2753 and my Toshiba has Philips SAA7893 as dedicated SACD decoders). And that it is only stereo. My SACD player is stereo/surround and I definitely prefer the 5.1 versions of the albums. But that's just me. Last edited by SoNic_real_one; 18th July 2010 at 03:17 PM.

18th July 2010, 09:58 PM	#6
SoNic_real_one diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virginia	"Vacuum State Electronics". Bull, IMHO... Fitted with some nice OpAmps you will get better results (tubes aren't doing a good job as I/V conversion). You could try also some HDAM output stage (more expensive and not sure what improvement would provide compared with OpAmps like LM4562, ADA8559, OPA1642, etc...). Last edited by SoNic_real_one; 18th July 2010 at 10:03 PM.


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18th July 2010, 09:45 PM	#5
Jozua diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cape Town	BTW and "SoNic" Many thanks for that link. I am uncertain what is meant by a VSE upgrade? I could only get the unit or 1 hour audition at home and it presented with a very nice sound stage. Nothing spectacular but definitely better than my 20 year old player. Regards Jozua

19th July 2010, 01:32 AM	#8
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19th July 2010, 07:58 AM	#9
Jozua diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cape Town	Planet10 Thanks for the VS link. It certainly opens new possibilities which I need to explore My own CD player caps were replaced with Panasonic and that made an improvement but then I have heard expensive modified Theta players which afterwards sounded unmusical to me. So it quite important for me to audition a player versus reading reviews. I also just heard that if I go the Yamaha route I possibly need to wait 4 months for a silver unit ! Jozua

19th July 2010, 07:50 PM	#10
SoNic_real_one diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virginia	I am sure that a change of OpAmps will improve enough the signal, with less money. Buy, hey, everyone does what they want with their cash Last edited by SoNic_real_one; 19th July 2010 at 07:57 PM.

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