Inside the Onkyo ND-S1 Ipod Transport - Page 5

stephensank · 17th October 2010, 12:10 AM

The USB receiver is a BurrBrown PCM2704, so the sampling rate is definitely limited to 48kHz, and possibly as little as 16bit, but I didn't sift through the whole PCM2704 data sheet to positively confirm that. So, it's not the best USB interface at all, but sure is the best ipod dock.

Fatmangolf · 17th October 2010, 08:40 AM

Thank you Stephen, that is helpful. I agree about the dock.

cyxx · 3rd November 2010, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamel

Why won't we tap the I2S Signal inside the Ipod and connect it to the unused Pins?

Okay perhaps it'll be difficult because the ICs on the newer Ipod Generations are irrecognizable but I think it's not impossible.

Felix

so, the new ipod touch 3G and 4G wont work here? anyboydy try it?

regards

Chris

RKH · 4th November 2010, 01:38 PM

Here is my experience. Read all the way through, you have been warned.

My ipod touch 3g (purchased in August 2010, just a couple of weeks before the latest version was released) worked... for a while. I can use the touch controls on the ipod screen when it is docked in the S1.

Syncing with a Mac connected is questionable. The S1 manual says Windows, with no mention of Mac OS X. When I tried to sync with iTunes on my macbook, everything locked up.

In the first hour of operation, no music. I BELIEVE, but do NOT know for certain, that this was a problem with my DAC and my construction thereof (It was a DIY project). I do not think it has anything to do with the S1 transport. I will confirm today when I use a different DAC.

That's all for now. I will check back after I try to run a new set up. The new set up will consist of : ipod Touch 3G (summer 2010)--> ND-S1 --> Gigaworks 'big' DAC --> Millett hybrid headphone/line stage --> Decware DIY tube amp (2 Watt, SV83 tubes) -> Klipsch Heresy

ryan

Fatmangolf · 14th November 2010, 09:56 PM

Has anyone tried to get a component video output from the NS-D1 - I hope that this would allow the iPOD menus to be shown on a monitor. In short I wondered if the "Made for iPOD" parts inside the Onkyo dock that allow a digital output would also enable the component video out?

Fatmangolf · 15th November 2010, 08:27 PM

Well it seems the NS-D1 does enable the video output. So the next step is working out the pins on the 30 pin connector and seeing if a component output will work on the test bench before drilling any holes!

Fatmangolf · 15th November 2010, 10:04 PM

The Green component is available from the video socket on the back which would be composite video in the earlier iPOD's. So it is technically possible to get component video out of the NS-D1. If you want to play video podcasts or digital copies it is far easier to buy an Apple component video cable and plug that in.

If only the NS-D1 had the On Screen Display circuits that are built into Onkyo's DS-A3! That would save reading the iPOD's 6 cm screen from 2-3 Metres away. Incidentally the IR codes from the DS-A3 are compatible so some of the extra commands can be programmed into a remote control and used to control the NS-D1. For example the Menu, Up, Down, and Enter commands from the DS-A3 seem to work on my NS-D1 via the Logitech 555 RC.

My NS-D1 goes into a modified DACMagic and does wonders on the iPOD for lossless and high bitrate tracks.

4th November 2010, 01:38 PM	#44
RKH diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado, USA	ipod touch 3g Here is my experience. Read all the way through, you have been warned. My ipod touch 3g (purchased in August 2010, just a couple of weeks before the latest version was released) worked... for a while. I can use the touch controls on the ipod screen when it is docked in the S1. Syncing with a Mac connected is questionable. The S1 manual says Windows, with no mention of Mac OS X. When I tried to sync with iTunes on my macbook, everything locked up. In the first hour of operation, no music. I BELIEVE, but do NOT know for certain, that this was a problem with my DAC and my construction thereof (It was a DIY project). I do not think it has anything to do with the S1 transport. I will confirm today when I use a different DAC. That's all for now. I will check back after I try to run a new set up. The new set up will consist of : ipod Touch 3G (summer 2010)--> ND-S1 --> Gigaworks 'big' DAC --> Millett hybrid headphone/line stage --> Decware DIY tube amp (2 Watt, SV83 tubes) -> Klipsch Heresy ryan __________________ Lighten up while you still can ...

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17th October 2010, 12:10 AM	#41
stephensank diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2006	The USB receiver is a BurrBrown PCM2704, so the sampling rate is definitely limited to 48kHz, and possibly as little as 16bit, but I didn't sift through the whole PCM2704 data sheet to positively confirm that. So, it's not the best USB interface at all, but sure is the best ipod dock.

17th October 2010, 08:40 AM	#42
Fatmangolf diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2010	Thank you Stephen, that is helpful. I agree about the dock.

14th November 2010, 09:56 PM	#45
Fatmangolf diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2010	Has anyone tried to get a component video output from the NS-D1 - I hope that this would allow the iPOD menus to be shown on a monitor. In short I wondered if the "Made for iPOD" parts inside the Onkyo dock that allow a digital output would also enable the component video out?

15th November 2010, 08:27 PM	#46
Fatmangolf diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2010	Well it seems the NS-D1 does enable the video output. So the next step is working out the pins on the 30 pin connector and seeing if a component output will work on the test bench before drilling any holes!

15th November 2010, 10:04 PM	#47
Fatmangolf diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2010	The Green component is available from the video socket on the back which would be composite video in the earlier iPOD's. So it is technically possible to get component video out of the NS-D1. If you want to play video podcasts or digital copies it is far easier to buy an Apple component video cable and plug that in. If only the NS-D1 had the On Screen Display circuits that are built into Onkyo's DS-A3! That would save reading the iPOD's 6 cm screen from 2-3 Metres away. Incidentally the IR codes from the DS-A3 are compatible so some of the extra commands can be programmed into a remote control and used to control the NS-D1. For example the Menu, Up, Down, and Enter commands from the DS-A3 seem to work on my NS-D1 via the Logitech 555 RC. My NS-D1 goes into a modified DACMagic and does wonders on the iPOD for lossless and high bitrate tracks.

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