Do the SAA7210 was much better than the SAA7000 ?

gaetan8888 · 09:40 PM

Hello

Do the SAA7210 was much better and with less jitter than the old SAA7000 ?

I have found a perfectly good working Sherwood CDP 310R cd player, it have a CDM2/10 and the same circuit than the Philips CD150 and CD350 cd players, it use a TDA 1540 Dac (14 bit) and use the SAA7010, SAA7020, SAA7000 and SAA7030.

I would use, in that Sherwood, a TDA1541A, in non-OS, if the SAA7000 would be as good than the SAA7210.

Thank

Bye

Gaetan

oshifis · 28th November 2009, 06:37 PM

I have done it in a Marantz CD-84 with an external clock.

gaetan8888 · 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oshifis

I have done it in a Marantz CD-84 with an external clock.

Hello

How does it sound ?

Did you compared it to modified cd players using SAA7210 in non-os ?

Thank

Bye

Gaetan

oshifis · 29th November 2009, 06:45 PM

I could not realistically compare because there were two different players, one with SAA70xx family modified from TDA1540P to TDA1541A, the other with SAA7210/7220 with TDA1541A. The supporting circuitry (PSU, clock, analog part, etc.) is completely different, so any comparison would be misleading. I am not even sure if the TDA1541A is better than the TDA1540P.

gaetan8888 · 29th November 2009, 07:22 PM

Hello

TDA1540 as good as the TDA1541 ? , maby.

Since the TDA1540 are only 14 bit, they use the SAA7030 filter and noises shaping to give some kind of 16 bit.

But I've read few comment saying that TDA1540 was sound very good.

Thank

Bye

Gaetan

gaetan8888 · 06:43 AM

Hello

After recaping the CDM2/10 pcboard and checking the laser output power, etc..., I decided to give a try to that Sherwood cd player and to it's TDA 1540 14 bit Dac.

After listening few good cd, I found out that a TDA 1540 14 bit Dac sound much better than I was expect, it sound very good.

So a friend of mine will have that Sherwood cd player to go with his Crimson amp.

Bye

Gaetan

oshifis · 12th January 2010, 01:47 PM

Does the Sherwood have ceramic or plastic TDA1540 (ceramic=D, plastic=P)? I heard the 1st generation ceramic chip sounds really superb, but it is very rare.

gaetan8888 · 13th January 2010, 02:40 AM

Hello oshifis

It's a P for plastic.

I have test it with a 1000 hz -60 db Verany test cd, and it have arround -47 db of distortion.

Bye

Gaetan

27th November 2009, 09:33 PM	#1
gaetan8888 diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2007	Do the SAA7210 was much better than the SAA7000 ? Hello Do the SAA7210 was much better and with less jitter than the old SAA7000 ? I have found a perfectly good working Sherwood CDP 310R cd player, it have a CDM2/10 and the same circuit than the Philips CD150 and CD350 cd players, it use a TDA 1540 Dac (14 bit) and use the SAA7010, SAA7020, SAA7000 and SAA7030. I would use, in that Sherwood, a TDA1541A, in non-OS, if the SAA7000 would be as good than the SAA7210. Thank Bye Gaetan Last edited by gaetan8888; 27th November 2009 at 09:40 PM.

12th January 2010, 06:41 AM	#6
gaetan8888 diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2007	Hello After recaping the CDM2/10 pcboard and checking the laser output power, etc..., I decided to give a try to that Sherwood cd player and to it's TDA 1540 14 bit Dac. After listening few good cd, I found out that a TDA 1540 14 bit Dac sound much better than I was expect, it sound very good. So a friend of mine will have that Sherwood cd player to go with his Crimson amp. Bye Gaetan Last edited by gaetan8888; 12th January 2010 at 06:43 AM.

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28th November 2009, 06:37 PM	#2
oshifis diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Budapest, Hungary	I have done it in a Marantz CD-84 with an external clock.

29th November 2009, 06:45 PM	#4
oshifis diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Budapest, Hungary	I could not realistically compare because there were two different players, one with SAA70xx family modified from TDA1540P to TDA1541A, the other with SAA7210/7220 with TDA1541A. The supporting circuitry (PSU, clock, analog part, etc.) is completely different, so any comparison would be misleading. I am not even sure if the TDA1541A is better than the TDA1540P.

29th November 2009, 07:22 PM	#5
gaetan8888 diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2007	Hello TDA1540 as good as the TDA1541 ? , maby. Since the TDA1540 are only 14 bit, they use the SAA7030 filter and noises shaping to give some kind of 16 bit. But I've read few comment saying that TDA1540 was sound very good. Thank Bye Gaetan

12th January 2010, 01:47 PM	#7
oshifis diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Budapest, Hungary	Does the Sherwood have ceramic or plastic TDA1540 (ceramic=D, plastic=P)? I heard the 1st generation ceramic chip sounds really superb, but it is very rare.

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