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Old 28th August 2009, 01:59 PM   #1
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Default QA-550 SD card 16/44.1 WAV transport

I've just ordered one of these for £67 including shipping to the UK:

http://www.qlshifi.com/en/wzcapi/qa550.htm

There is a mention of it in the "Lossless SD-card player" thread, but that thread discusses the design of a more sophisticated high-end alternative.

I'm keen to see how well this unit performs. Anyone heard one of these in action?
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Old 28th August 2009, 02:06 PM   #2
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But maybe we should continue the discussion in this thread.


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Old 28th August 2009, 02:13 PM   #3
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At the Ultimate Source thread, someone asked :

> could you please post a picture of the system e.g. the I2S interface of the QA550.

You can see that clearly at the bottommost photo (attached here) at their Chinese website:

http://www.qlshifi.com/wzcp/QA550.htm


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Old 28th August 2009, 02:45 PM   #4
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That's neat - providing IIS out directly, using os-con caps - this was obviously developed by someone listening in to DIY Audio forums?

It's great to see new, innovative audio solutions arriving, especially as they are keenly priced. Another one from China is the Musiland 24/192KHz USB controller/DAC. These are notably based on DSP or FPGAs and seem to be all the better for that.

Some questions
- are these IIS signals coming from the dsPIC chip? It seems like a longish distance for high speed signals to travel particularly past the screen which is probably radiating noise & then through a lead to a DAC. Jonners, you are running I2S to DAC - no problems?

- Is the chip powerful enough to be able to handle high-res audio? (I know it would be a different design but just wondering). What about USB or ethernet?

- Patrick, Any sound evaluation of it yet?
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Old 28th August 2009, 02:54 PM   #5
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Patrick -

Referring back to your calculation of jitter in the 'ultimate source' thread:
You said:
0.5% of 1/11.2896MHz = 0.44ps
By my calculation that's 440ps.

jkeny -

I2S to TDA1543 DAC works fine for me and sounds at least as good as my 'Shigaclone' transport. My external wires connecting the I2S out to the DAC are at present more than 4" long but I plan to make them very short by having the DAC in a case directly underneath the QA-550.
I haven't traced the internal route of the I2S signals as yet.

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Old 28th August 2009, 02:58 PM   #6
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You are right, 0.44ns I wanted to say.
Can always reclock. I wonder if the 74VHC logic has lower jitter.

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Thanks Jonners,
For helping out the lazy ones who didn't even bother to redo the jitter calculation. Hmmm, could it be brought lower?

The Musiland USB DAC (from China also) is showing a provisional jitter figure of <100ps (limit of test equip). The Xilinx FPGA used in it - worst case jitter is 150ps (but this is at 200 -300MHz & all gates firing. Real world case 48MHz (on only some parts) & only a few gates firing.
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Thanks Jonners,
For helping out the lazy ones who didn't even bother to redo the jitter calculation. Hmmm, could it be brought lower?

The Musiland USB DAC (from China also) is showing a provisional jitter figure of <100ps (limit of test equip). The Xilinx FPGA used in it - worst case jitter is 150ps (but this is at 200 -300MHz & all gates firing. Real world case 48MHz (on only some parts) & only a few gates firing.
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More double posts - this keeps catching me out - I think it's my router dropping the line every now & then - sorry about this
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- are these IIS signals coming from the dsPIC chip? It seems like a longish distance for high speed signals to travel...
Yes, they are, and the distance is not too short. And, btw, this is not any kind of DSP but quite an ordinary micro controller.
I neither have very much confidence in routing those I²S signals this way. I am thinking of removing the 74HVC04 and replacing it with an LVDS driver, connected to a RJ-45 socket. Won't be a drop-in replacement, but most probably worth the effort.
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