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Old 10th November 2008, 11:17 AM   #101
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seems that you sold your Drekling too early ......

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Old 10th November 2008, 11:39 AM   #104
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Old 10th November 2008, 11:44 AM   #105
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This one should be prefered version for us pathetic pooftaah...

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Old 10th November 2008, 11:52 AM   #106
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This one should be prefered version for us pathetic pooftaah...

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tell me more about Arno ;

on my email thingie ..... not to pollute this nice topikkkkk
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Old 10th November 2008, 01:20 PM   #107
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...I'll invite both of you for beers....or portuguese wine...much better for listening session....works much better than changing coupling caps .....hehe.

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Old 10th November 2008, 10:47 PM   #108
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Hi ZM....

Made a lot of changes...

1 - Reduced 270R resistance to 100R.
2 - eliminated the 1nF caps
3 - reduced I/V resistance ti 1k5, had too much gain.
4 - realigned the of-set
5 - changed coupling caps as you suggested but i didn't have 20uF so i tried some 47uF SilmicIIs i had around.
6 - removed a 220uF cap i had on power supply rails on the board since i'm getting 15V from op-amp supply pin of Shanling.


Result:
Sound is even cleaner, sound stage fantastic, relaxed , not tiring, great effortless dynamics...bass is a tad better but not much.
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Old 10th November 2008, 10:57 PM   #109
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tell me - what you are calling offset ?

what/which voltage you are exactly trimming with that pot ?

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...... The common level of the I/V conversion circuit must be the same as the
common level of DAC I that is given by the V 2 reference voltage, 2.5 V dc. ........
so - you must try to set outputs of DAC/inputs of I/V stage to that potential ........... fiddling with both trimmers ;

there is your stolen bass - difference between 2V5 and 3V4

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Made a lot of changes...

1 - Reduced 270R resistance to 100R.
2 - eliminated the 1nF caps
3 - reduced I/V resistance ti 1k5, had too much gain.
4 - realigned the of-set
5 - changed coupling caps as you suggested but i didn't have 20uF so i tried some 47uF SilmicIIs i had around.
6 - removed a 220uF cap i had on power supply rails on the board since i'm getting 15V from op-amp supply pin of Shanling.

1. OK ; but - maybe you'll need to trim them ,after achieving 2V5
2 . confirm with CRO that you don't have much garbage above 20K
3.OK
4. hehe
5.leave silmics in , to the end of prototyping
6 . solder them back
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Old 10th November 2008, 11:11 PM   #110
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Hi ZM,

The offset i adjusted on top of 1k5 I/V resistor to1/2 Vcc, as Rudolf Suggests:

http://diyparadise.com/ssiv.html

...... The common level of the I/V conversion circuit must be the same as the
common level of DAC I that is given by the V 2 reference voltage, 2.5 V dc. ........


Hmmmm well that is easy enough to check...might be right, actually i did try the boards before realigning the DC do half Vcc and although level was lower there was more bass.....i think, will try that.
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