Vecteur L4 - Philips transport problem

[moonman]

I have a Vecteur L-4 CD player which received damage to the transport in shipping. The transport is a Philips mechanism, with the following code on it:

310330852010
ECOSLMK3
KT000112181848

Here are pics of it:

http://www.mannage.com/nla/PhilipsMkIII.jpg
http://www.mannage.com/nla/PhilipsMkIIIb.jpg
http://www.mannage.com/nla/PhilipsMkIIIc.jpg
http://www.mannage.com/nla/PhilipsMkIIdI.jpg
http://www.mannage.com/nla/PhilipsMkIIIe.jpg

With the help of a technician friend of mine (who was too busy to take on the full repair), we found the following:

The sled that holds the disc sits in a frame and is hinged at the rear. The front part can raise and lower by a helical gear (white plastic). When the gear is in the up position, it does not push the sled high enough to allow the disc to spin properly. In other words, the whole CD holder mechanism is sitting too low. The disc rubs on the loading tray and won’t spin.

Perhaps when it was dropped in shipping, it got out of alignment.

By putting shims under the CD itself, between it and the disc platform, we can get the disc to spin and the player to play music.

Questions:

1. Can someone suggest how to repair this? Could the gear teeth slip somehow, or ?
2. What other players have this transport model, so I could perhaps scavenge a working one?
3. Failing the above, does anyone know a repair tech who might be able to do the repair?

Thanks,
Steve

[guido]

Think that's going to be difficult.... Philips austria made their own transports (or had them made). Nothing like the cdm swing-arm stuff. I'm not shure in which type of equipment those ended up. I guess some all in one stereo sets etc.

Only saw one of those ever, next to many cdm's. Player was based on mitsubishi chipset with yamaha dac...

Good luck (you need it)

[poynton]

It sounds as if the gearing has slipped.

I have come across this type of fault previously where the drawer has been forced.

Usually, complete disassembly followed by careful reassembly will fix the problem.
You may have to try more than once.


This mechanism and board is also used in the Marantz CD4000 (certainly the ECO-SL-MK3 board is).

I think the mechanism is a modified cdm12.*

EDIT :- Yes, I am correct - from the manual for fitting the tjoebe
clock. see page9 of the pdf
http://www.technologyfactory.be/prod...k%20manual.pdf

So, for a spare machine , look for a Marantz CD4000 or the Philips version, CD723

You could post a request for the manual on the forum as I know several people have posted it before.


Andy

[moonman]

Thanks, Guido. Maybe someone will post the name of a tech/shop that could give it a shot. There's got to be someone out there that knows this mechanism.

Best regards,
Steve

[poynton]

?????

you didn't read my post then ????

Andy

[moonman]

Hi Andy,

We must have been posting our replies simultaneously, as your reply was not there when I started to post mine.

Anyway, thanks for the super helpful information. I have saved searches on eBay for the Marantz and Philips players.

Would the disassembly and reassembly be something you could do for me for x dollars? Or, do you think it is better to salvage one, as above. The only thing I worry about with salvaging one, is whether there were any modifications done to it (I doubt it) by Vecteur.

The Vecteur L4 is a good player, especially for what I have into it, having purchased it used and then getting money from the insurance claim against UPS.

Thanks,
Steve

[poynton]

It would only be the mechanism that would need changing.
I doubt there would be any changes there.
It would only take 30mins or so to do - very easy , no special tools required.

The only possible headache would be the ribbon from the mech to the board - not difficult but fiddly.


Andy

[moonman]

So, it sounds like you are recommending that I salvage one from another player, rather than disassemble and reassemble the one I have?

[poynton]

I'd have a go at the one you've got first.
It won't take that long to take apart.

Andy

[guido]

It's a newer than i thought... You should be able to find a replacement (if fixing didn't work).

As for the manual, send me a pm for the 723 manual. I does have a picture in there and it looks similar.