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Old 22nd March 2003, 12:16 PM   #1
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Default Marantz CD6000 "ERROR" messages - Help!

I have a Marantz CD 6000 OSE around here and have some prolems
playing some CDRs.

Some special tracks i "Skip" to just make the player stop. No problem
with only playing or fastforward them.

When i enter the service mode and skip to them the display
shows "ERROR 7" first and then when it stops "ERROR 10".

It can´t be the VAM1201 Laser Unit cause i just exchanged it.

The CDRs are from same quality and burner.

Any ideas?
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Old 22nd March 2003, 12:36 PM   #2
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Some special tracks i "Skip" to just make the player stop. No problem
with only playing or fastforward them.

Any ideas?
What do you mean with special tracks?
You can't make the player stop playing? Does the stop button not work?
Please clarify.
Is this the same player as the Philips CD6000?

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Old 22nd March 2003, 12:53 PM   #3
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Ok, I assume the CD6000 is the same as the Philips.

Replace the bearing (4822 466 92257) and ball (4822 520 40177) situated above the disk. Both parts are very inexpensive.
Grease the ball with molycote PG65.

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Old 22nd March 2003, 01:16 PM   #4
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Hello Netlist!

When i burn 2 CDs with the same music, lets say 12 tracks, different
CDR manufacturer. I can play the whole CD but skipping directly to track 2
the player always stops with both CDRs. Skipping directly to track 8 works
with both CDRs.

Thats why i asked about the "ERROR XX" description the player shows in
serice mode.

I don´t know what the Philips 6000 is, sorry.

Are you sure the Balll and Bearing is causing this? What can get broken with
these parts? I wish it is that cheap and easy.

Thank you so far
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Old 22nd March 2003, 01:43 PM   #5
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Are you sure the Balll and Bearing is causing this? What can get broken with
these parts? I wish it is that cheap and easy.
A note from Philips says that every player of that type that comes in for service at least shall be given new grease to the ball, and preferably be modified with a new bearing and ball and grease to avoid skipping of tracks and misbehaving of the player.
The price is less than 2 without transport.

Of course there could be other reasons, but this one is very likely
an option. The ball and bearing are weak parts in these players.
What about normal cds?
Unfortunately I dont have access to the error-codes.. maybe someone over here has a service manual.

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With normal CDs i never have this problem.
Maybe the burning program (Nero) has something "improved" I will try another.

Ball and Bearing may be affected by the heavier and thicker recordables. Normal CDs seem to be lighter and thinner but i can´t swear on it .
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With normal CDs i never have this problem.
Try to have access to another player, and CDR's recorded with other PC's.

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Old 22nd March 2003, 02:59 PM   #8
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To be more precise, i have a Philips 753 here and this
Marantz 6000.

I just swapped the VAM1201s between the players and
the Philips plays everything perfectly! Never had
problems with ANY! CDR.Thats why i already concluded
it can´t be the Laserunit. Older CDRs have the same
problems in the 6000. Doesn´t matter who burned them
and what kind of CDR.

well there i spend the first time more money on
a well regarded product and then...
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Can you swap the ball and bearing?
Of course they should be exactly the same.
What type of P is in both players? ZC99xxx?

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The B+B is different in both players. The Philips uses the short loader and the Marantz a L1210 housing for the Laserunit.

I can´t find ZC99xx anywhere where should they are?
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