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CDM-4/19 running at warpspeed
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Old 2nd May 2008, 05:35 PM   #1
Pharao.Pharao is offline Pharao.Pharao  Germany
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Hi,

the CDM-4/19 of my Philips CD780/00R player runs at warm speed when I turn on the power switch of the player. Since I donīt have any service manual neither of the player itself nor of the CDM-4/19, can anybody here please advise where and how to start debugging?

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Old 2nd May 2008, 06:06 PM   #2
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Hi P,


If there is a SAA7220 or a SAA7345 in the player, than probably this is the culprit of the spinning CD.


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Old 2nd May 2008, 08:15 PM   #3
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Hi there,

there is a SAA7220P/A and a SAA7210P in the player... . How to best diagnose whether the SAA7220P/A is the culprit one for the warp speed? I mean, I have just the datasheet of the SAA7220 in front of me and am looking for best practice diagnosis.

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Old 2nd May 2008, 11:49 PM   #4
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From my digital guru:

"Tell this guy to check the '7220 for proper operation. It has the clock,
and if that chip does not work, the platter spins at warp speed."
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Old 3rd May 2008, 09:15 AM   #5
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Look first at the TCA0372. If this are blown/shorted the CD will spin non stop.
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Old 3rd May 2008, 12:30 PM   #6
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Check ALL supplies first to all I/C,s. Might be a safety resistor gone high.
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Old 4th May 2008, 08:23 PM   #7
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@Mooly: All supplies to all ICs look good. I am just done with measuring. Even all resistors look OK to me.

@Predator864: There is a TCA0372DP2 (Motorola) on the board. I even have the datasheet and started measuring. Hmm.. question: Would the CD spin counter-clockwise at overspeed when this TCA0372DP2 is blown/shorted?

@SY: The SAA7220 is absolutely OK from what I measured. And the SAA7110 shows a fixed 88.19 kHz signal on Pin 17 (MSC). This is good news, right?

@All: If anybody could share the Service Manual for the Philips CD780/00R with me, I could continue much more systematically. Your help is highly appreciated!

Any more hints on how to continue a bit more systematically? I would like to track down the 88.19 kHz signal from Pin 17 (MSC) of the SAA7220 a bit further, but I donīt have any schematic of the PCB of the CD player, so I am a bit lost at this moment. Any advice you could give, please?
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Old 4th May 2008, 09:14 PM   #8
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I blown a TCA0372 while measuring it. Then the CD began spinning like a madman.
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Old 4th May 2008, 09:24 PM   #9
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@Predator864: Did the CD start spinning counter-clockwise after the TCA0372 was blown?
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Old 4th May 2008, 09:26 PM   #10
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I dont know. Scared the crap out of me and unplugged it immediately.
I can clearly remember by shorting two pins of the IC the CD would spin in a direction, but again I dont know if it is CW or CCW.
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