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Richard Murdey
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Onkyo uses a patented circuit to remove noise from the DAC output. They give it a fancy name, "VLSC - Vector Linear Shaping Circuitry" and provide some unhelpful sales-patter to explain how it works.
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Anyone with more smarts than me care to comment? Reading the patent it looks like Onkyo are serious about it, but what it actually is, and how different it is from what's been put forward before, is beyond my skillz. /Richard |
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I have mulled the meanings of this patent many times over the years. AFAIK it was first used in the INTEGRA Research RDC-7 following a quad of BB1704s. I continue to favor the balanced output of that extraordinary component above all others. How much is the VLSC and how much those DACs?
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Virginia
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They have a linear integrator included in path, working between each two convesion points. So, instead of steaps, you have straight lines beween conversion points. Linear interpolation done in analogic domanin.
Now is done in digital domanin by oversampling, noise shaping and make use of the output filters to generate the same results or better. Last edited by SoNic_real_one; 17th October 2011 at 10:44 AM. |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: A long way from home
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I don't pretend to understand vlsc but I am curious because I have a Onkyo soundcard with the WM8740 DAC and it claims to have vlsc. I assumed the vlsc was the op amp filtering after the DAC ? Each channel has three dual op amps (six dual op amps for stereo) and each signal is fed through five op amps with feedback/filtering. So if that is the vlsc, it seems like it isn't such a dark art ?
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Join Date: May 2007
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Doing this makes the output waveform look superficially more like the original analogue signal, at low enough signal frequencies. At higher signal frequencies it actually increases the attenuation of HF. A 'normal' sample-and-hold DAC output naturally has a sinc frequency response. A 'linear interpolation' DAC has a worse frequency response, with more HF cut. This can be taken care of in the digital filters but why make extra work for yourself, just so that people who like naive pretty pictures are satisfied? The HF droop caused by this does not have an accompanying phase shift, just a fixed time delay, so compensating for it is messy as a normal filter will have both phase and frequency effects. On balance I think it is a bad idea.
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