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Old 31st January 2003, 01:27 AM   #1
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Default Where can I find Redbook on web?

Or do I have to buy it for some outrageous price somewhere?
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Old 31st January 2003, 02:09 AM   #2
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Default There are some CDs to buy, yes!!

"CD Audio" is the usual name for what Red Book describes.
It is an agreement first made by Philips & SONY.
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I have made a search.
Keywords: Standard definition "for download" "Red Book" "CD Audio"
This got it downto 19 hits with google
google hits - 19 hits
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found these 2 PDFs:

SONY - CD Audio Manual 50 pages

Compact Discs - Technical Specifications 55 pages

Hope it helps, Circlotron

Will you start burning CDs?

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Old 31st January 2003, 07:33 AM   #3
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"CD Audio" is the usual name for what Red Book describes.
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Default Re: Where can I find Redbook on web?

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Or do I have to buy it for some outrageous price somewhere?

Is there something special you are wondering about? Maybe I or someone else can give you some input.

You are searching for the CD standard "Red book" I suppose?
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Trusted Network Interpretation of the TCSEC (TNI), 31 July 1987. (Red Book)

http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/libr...SC-TG-005.html
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Old 1st February 2003, 10:03 AM   #6
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Is there something special you are wondering about? Maybe I or someone else can give you some input.

You are searching for the CD standard "Red book" I suppose?
I was wanting to see if there was some way to squeeze 24 bit audio data onto a normal CD-DA track for the sake of playing it on a 24 bit DVD player. I did some looking in the meantime and it looks a bit scary...
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I was wanting to see if there was some way to squeeze 24 bit audio data onto a normal CD-DA track for the sake of playing it on a 24 bit DVD player. I did some looking in the meantime and it looks a bit scary...
That shouldn't be a probelem.

What I know the format uses 32 bits to store the musicinfo.
Even when music is recorded in 16 or 20-bits.
So there are a lot of unused bits.
You could say that CD-format is "future-safe".
No need to squeeze.
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You might get some bits info from the datasheets of
these ICs that has to be able to handle ALL FORMATS:
CS8404 96kHz Digital audio Transmitter
CS8414 96kHz Digital audio Receiver
CS8420 24bit Digital audio Sample Rate Converter
Cirrus Logic CS8420

/halo - is dreaming of 32 bits Audio Sound in 384k/s sampling
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Old 1st February 2003, 10:29 AM   #8
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You might get some bits info from the datasheets of
this IC that has to be able to handle ALL FORMATS:
CS8420 24bit Digital audio Sample Rate Converter

CS8420 Digital Audio Sample Rate Converter - Cirrus Logic homepage

on same page is a PDF:
AN022 Overview of Digital Audio Interface Data Structures (pdf) 02/1998, AN22REV2

and some other PDF you can get from this site

They are really specialist in CD-data - CIRRUS LOGIC!!!!!!!!

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AN022 Overview of Digital Audio Interface Data Structures (pdf) 02/1998, AN22REV2
I looked at that one, is SPDIF type stuff unfortunately. CD technical spec thing and Sony thing are both specifications that CD manufacturers require of people submitting a recording to them for manufacture as discs. Thanks anyway halo.
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That shouldn't be a probelem.

What I know the format uses 32 bits to store the musicinfo.
Even when music is recorded in 16 or 20-bits.
So there are a lot of unused bits.
You could say that CD-format is "future-safe".
No need to squeeze.
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No,

Redbook Audio CD's are encoded as 16bit 44.1kHz the remaining area on the CD is used for error correction etc.

The problem still remains, since no formal format exists for 24bit audio on a CD, unless you find some oddball non-standard player, you wont be able to play the discs even if you can find a way to create them. However, all is not lost, HDCD is a possibility (though it's only 20bit), DTS is a possibility, WAV (the file format that is) is a possibility.
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