Can a DCX2496 be a sustitute for Orions x'over?nt

Lito · 19th January 2004, 07:21 PM

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Henckel · 19th January 2004, 08:01 PM

Sure. Go to Behringers web site and download the application that controlls the DCX 2496 - Play with it an convince yourself that it is suitable for the job.
link:

http://www.behringer.com/02_products...TOKEN=99167996

And the software to download

Remote Software Version 1.15

Morten

nemestra · 19th January 2004, 10:21 PM

From S. Linkwitz's site, see:

http://www.linkwitzlab.com/orion_asp.htm

"I doubt that off-the-shelf DSP based crossovers have enough flexibility to duplicate the three outputs of the ORION ASP in magnitude, phase, distortion and noise level. It certainly is not just a matter of adjusting for similar magnitude response since the ASP is not minimum-phase"

It might be better to find out if someone has actually got the DCX2496 to work in this exact application before spending any money.

James

EchiDna · 19th January 2004, 10:46 PM

it's been done, not specifically with the behringer, but done with pro music crossovers. See here for a linkwitz "clone" :

http://www.doddsy.net/steve6_009.htm

Henckel · 20th January 2004, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nemestra
From S. Linkwitz's site, see:

http://www.linkwitzlab.com/orion_asp.htm

"I doubt that off-the-shelf DSP based crossovers have enough flexibility to duplicate the three outputs of the ORION ASP in magnitude, phase, distortion and noise level. It certainly is not just a matter of adjusting for similar magnitude response since the ASP is not minimum-phase"

Linkwitz is not right on this one. Download the control program as per above an set it up as described in the link above. If your are not able to do it it is because of human error not Behringer.

Morten

mrfeedback · 20th January 2004, 11:21 AM

The control program for the Behringer DCX2496 gives quick and easy access to quite a range of parameters.
Settings can be saved as presets, and switched between on the fly for easy A/B comparisons.
Crossover types and slopes can be easily selected and this gives instant real time comparison.
There are better sounding crossovers than the Behringer and with similar features, but the Behringer works fine, especially for the price.

Eric.

sfdoddsy · 20th January 2004, 11:17 PM

Sorry, but it is touch and go. The extra boost required because of the very low Q of the Peerless woofers comes close to maxing out the processing power of the Behringer.

This is if you do an exact duplicate of the Orion Xover which requires the boost to be maintained down to 10Hz or so.

Cheers

Steve

Lito · 21st January 2004, 03:21 AM

What if I add a Linkwitz tranform to the woofers. Will this be enough so that the DCX 2496 can further process it. TIA

Lito

sfdoddsy · 21st January 2004, 04:21 AM

Assuming you are doing it outside the crossover, possibly. Email me and I will send you more information.

steve@doddsy.net

Cheers

Steve

EchiDna · 21st January 2004, 05:39 AM

hmm, so it's difficult with the behringer...

how about using other pro crossovers?
like the DBX on your site Steve?

can the one you have, and others in the range do all the processing required?

19th January 2004, 07:21 PM	#1
Lito diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: philippines	Can a DCX2496 be a sustitute for Orions x'over?nt .

20th January 2004, 11:21 AM	#6
mrfeedback diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Perth, Australia.	The control program for the Behringer DCX2496 gives quick and easy access to quite a range of parameters. Settings can be saved as presets, and switched between on the fly for easy A/B comparisons. Crossover types and slopes can be easily selected and this gives instant real time comparison. There are better sounding crossovers than the Behringer and with similar features, but the Behringer works fine, especially for the price. Eric. __________________ I believe not to believe in any fixed belief system.

20th January 2004, 11:17 PM	#7
sfdoddsy diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Australia	Sorry, but it is touch and go. The extra boost required because of the very low Q of the Peerless woofers comes close to maxing out the processing power of the Behringer. This is if you do an exact duplicate of the Orion Xover which requires the boost to be maintained down to 10Hz or so. Cheers Steve __________________ http://cargocollective.com/stevedodd...ge-of-the-Nerd

21st January 2004, 04:21 AM	#9
sfdoddsy diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Australia	Assuming you are doing it outside the crossover, possibly. Email me and I will send you more information. steve@doddsy.net Cheers Steve __________________ http://cargocollective.com/stevedodd...ge-of-the-Nerd

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19th January 2004, 08:01 PM	#2
Henckel diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark	Sure. Go to Behringers web site and download the application that controlls the DCX 2496 - Play with it an convince yourself that it is suitable for the job. link: http://www.behringer.com/02_products...TOKEN=99167996 And the software to download Remote Software Version 1.15 Morten

19th January 2004, 10:21 PM	#3
nemestra diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK	From S. Linkwitz's site, see: http://www.linkwitzlab.com/orion_asp.htm "I doubt that off-the-shelf DSP based crossovers have enough flexibility to duplicate the three outputs of the ORION ASP in magnitude, phase, distortion and noise level. It certainly is not just a matter of adjusting for similar magnitude response since the ASP is not minimum-phase" It might be better to find out if someone has actually got the DCX2496 to work in this exact application before spending any money. James

19th January 2004, 10:46 PM	#4
EchiDna diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Singapore	it's been done, not specifically with the behringer, but done with pro music crossovers. See here for a linkwitz "clone" : http://www.doddsy.net/steve6_009.htm

21st January 2004, 03:21 AM	#8
Lito diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: philippines	What if I add a Linkwitz tranform to the woofers. Will this be enough so that the DCX 2496 can further process it. TIA Lito

21st January 2004, 05:39 AM	#10
EchiDna diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Singapore	hmm, so it's difficult with the behringer... how about using other pro crossovers? like the DBX on your site Steve? can the one you have, and others in the range do all the processing required?

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