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Old 29th November 2012, 04:01 AM   #31
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Some do - have you listened to Martin Mallinson's talk at RMAF last year?



The irony here amuses me no end Is the design objective end-user listening satisfaction or is it THD and SNR?



Indeed - strawman.
yes but when you say that some bit of kit sounds better and the differences can't be measured by normal means then how on earth do you translate that into a design brief ?? What possible directions would you give to a silicon designer ?

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I take it you didn't watch the RMAF ESS presentation?
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Old 29th November 2012, 04:17 AM   #33
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I take it you didn't watch the RMAF ESS presentation?
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You too lazy to use Google then? DIY AUDIO BLOG: ESS Technology SABRE DACs - Martin Mallinson on RMAF 11
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Here's an interesting (as in hilarious ) post on Head-Fi which is pretty typical of the 'objectivist' position, if anyone's still in any doubt. The discussion is over a DAP (Charles Altmann's Tera Player) which subjectively raved about but has so far no published 'objective' measurements : Altmann Tera Player
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Here's an interesting (as in hilarious ) post on Head-Fi which is pretty typical of the 'objectivist' position, if anyone's still in any doubt. The discussion is over a DAP (Charles Altmann's Tera Player) which subjectively raved about but has so far no published 'objective' measurements : Altmann Tera Player

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Old 29th November 2012, 05:39 AM   #39
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so what is your point ??

ESS designs for low noise and THD and the measurements confirm this.
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So when Sanken designs output transistors they design them based on immeasurable subjective design criteria LOL
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