Nosian >> Ahh i see
And i only need one LM4562 ? And fits the original DIP socket ?
Yes indeed, so simple and inexpensive.
There are other op amps that may sound different, but that one is definately better than the NE5532 supplied with the kit.
Just make sure it's the right way round.
Yes indeed, so simple and inexpensive.
There are other op amps that may sound different, but that one is definately better than the NE5532 supplied with the kit.
Just make sure it's the right way round.
I just give it a try
The right way, must be the same as the NE5532 ! ?
Hi, I have just replaced the NE5532 in mine with an LM4562 and was quite surprised how much better it sounded.
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Anyone else tried the LM4562 ?
I did and while it sounds very good I think it lacks slam and impact, probably because it usually sounds better when followed by a buffer or at leas a resistor that isolate it from capacitive loads.
In the first pages of the thread Jean-Paul, which uses LM4562, suggest to use the resistor to improve sound.
Silver88, "x2 on BrowDog", you need tow opa827. one on the dog another under the dog! quite difficult to solder I think. Already destroyed a pair! going to use LME49720 instead. only one needed!
Not much, with patience and fine solder.
Yes i read, but maybe if someone could post a picture or 2, showing how to solder the things right up, we all can try the opa827
See the attachment...
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I did and while it sounds very good I think it lacks slam and impact, probably because it usually sounds better when followed by a buffer or at leas a resistor that isolate it from capacitive loads.
In the first pages of the thread Jean-Paul, which uses LM4562, suggest to use the resistor to improve sound.]
My DAC feeds into a valve pre amp. (World Designs Pre3).
Hi..
I just got my finished AKM4396 dac, and since i got the information of the dac kit from this thread i think i should share what i've experience about this dac..
my ak4396 uses "custom" Broskie tube Unbalancer as its output stage with two GE 8cg7 tube and then feed by Phillips ez80 as the tube rectifier..
i cant says much about the design of the output stage,, because i had it built by my friend..
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the sound is very amazing for a dac that this cheap and small, mid and high is clear and natural without a hint of harshness and it gives an effortless feeling.. detail and sound separation are excellent.. and i'm not experiencing the lack of bass that some has say.... i have the elektor dac with all the boutique parts (BG, tantalum, vishay etc) and i think the ak4396 has better it in almost every aspect..
this ak4396 dac kit is trully a very good performer even with stock op amp output,, but once you paired it with good tube output (or maybe an OT) you'll expect a significant improvement,, imo no comparison with the opamp output..
i think ill stick with this ak4396 dac for a little while
sorry for my bad english..
regards
I just got my finished AKM4396 dac, and since i got the information of the dac kit from this thread i think i should share what i've experience about this dac..
my ak4396 uses "custom" Broskie tube Unbalancer as its output stage with two GE 8cg7 tube and then feed by Phillips ez80 as the tube rectifier..
i cant says much about the design of the output stage,, because i had it built by my friend..
f
the sound is very amazing for a dac that this cheap and small, mid and high is clear and natural without a hint of harshness and it gives an effortless feeling.. detail and sound separation are excellent.. and i'm not experiencing the lack of bass that some has say.... i have the elektor dac with all the boutique parts (BG, tantalum, vishay etc) and i think the ak4396 has better it in almost every aspect..
this ak4396 dac kit is trully a very good performer even with stock op amp output,, but once you paired it with good tube output (or maybe an OT) you'll expect a significant improvement,, imo no comparison with the opamp output..
i think ill stick with this ak4396 dac for a little while
sorry for my bad english..
regards
I did and while it sounds very good I think it lacks slam and impact, probably because it usually sounds better when followed by a buffer or at leas a resistor that isolate it from capacitive loads.
In the first pages of the thread Jean-Paul, which uses LM4562, suggest to use the resistor to improve sound.
Not much, with patience and fine solder.
See the attachment...
Nice Clave as always Do you know a place, where to buy the two opa827, and where i know for sure, that they are original ? And the brownDog to.
Your English is better than mine as I'm AustralianHi..
I just got my finished AKM4396 dac, and since i got the information of the dac kit from this thread i think i should share what i've experience about this dac..
my ak4396 uses "custom" Broskie tube Unbalancer as its output stage with two GE 8cg7 tube and then feed by Phillips ez80 as the tube rectifier..
i cant says much about the design of the output stage,, because i had it built by my friend..
the sound is very amazing for a dac that this cheap and small, mid and high is clear and natural without a hint of harshness and it gives an effortless feeling.. detail and sound separation are excellent.. and i'm not experiencing the lack of bass that some has say.... i have the elektor dac with all the boutique parts (BG, tantalum, vishay etc) and i think the ak4396 has better it in almost every aspect..
this ak4396 dac kit is trully a very good performer even with stock op amp output,, but once you paired it with good tube output (or maybe an OT) you'll expect a significant improvement,, imo no comparison with the opamp output..
i think ill stick with this ak4396 dac for a little while
sorry for my bad english..
regards
Very nice work mate, and a nice build.
AK4393/4396
I have been listening to the stock DAC 2496 (AK4393) for a couple of weeks. Recently replaced the 5532 with dual OPA627. Both are a little bass shy-the OPA627 provides reduced sibilance, otherwise both are very detailed and smooth.
Yesterday a pre-assembled board with AK4396 arrived(these things are so inexpensive) and the most significant improvement is an almost absence of sibilance, in stock form. I haven't tried swapping the output chip yet.
All versions are a little lean on bass but highly listenable.
Now waiting for some Wimas to try(not sure what improvement to expect).
Peter
I have been listening to the stock DAC 2496 (AK4393) for a couple of weeks. Recently replaced the 5532 with dual OPA627. Both are a little bass shy-the OPA627 provides reduced sibilance, otherwise both are very detailed and smooth.
Yesterday a pre-assembled board with AK4396 arrived(these things are so inexpensive) and the most significant improvement is an almost absence of sibilance, in stock form. I haven't tried swapping the output chip yet.
All versions are a little lean on bass but highly listenable.
Now waiting for some Wimas to try(not sure what improvement to expect).
Peter
Nice Clave as always Do you know a place, where to buy the two opa827, and where i know for sure, that they are original ? And the brownDog to.
For OPA827 eBay seller Audiosector, for Browndogs directly from Cimarron Technlogy.
All versions are a little lean on bass but highly listenable.
Start replacing the regulators with ON Semiconductor parts, as per my BOM.
I have no lack of bass with the stock regulators. But I am using massive capacitors
But On Semi regs costs less...
But On Semi regs costs less...
My big capacitors cost........ nothing.
My big capacitors cost........ nothing.
How big are those capacitors and where are they?
How big are those capacitors and where are they?
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digi...c-kit-cs8416-ak4393-5532-a-5.html#post2539411
I think the AK4396 chip is damaged.
I can think of nothing else sorry.
Anyone else?
You were totally right. I've just replaced the old AK4396 with the one that the eBay vendor (along1986090 - thank you very much) sent me and it solved the clipping issue. Thank you for your help once again. Now I have a fully functional DAC based on the AK4396.
Yes it's an assembled and tested DAC !!!
I just sent an email to the vendor and i wait his answer .
Serge
I have received a replacement kit .
Thanks to the eBay vendor along1986090
Serge
Have now tried with LM4562. Just plug and play replacement whith the original Ne5532. I think i have a little improvement, but not enough to make me satisfied.
I have ordered a new pcb with the ak4396 chip. And planning to built after the full BOM from Clave. Looking forward to it. The last parts, comes in next week
I have ordered a new pcb with the ak4396 chip. And planning to built after the full BOM from Clave. Looking forward to it. The last parts, comes in next week
Silver84...
I have both boards - one with OPA627, which gives improvement to both. Waiting for another OPA627. No other modifications yet, but I will be very pleased if you publish your findings after you complete the ak4396 board.
Peter
pjblakey >> I am going to use opa827, and all the other things from the BOM But yes i give feedback
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