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tofurky
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Join Date: Jan 2013
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 Originally Posted by tofurky i read through dozens of pages of the thread and did some searches, but i did not see a clear reason why a 15v/9v r-core is suggested. 9v to a 9v regulator with a 1.3v dropout voltage? is this because with a small load, the transformer will actually output something significantly higher, like 12v or so?
duh, so rectifying 9vac gives ~12.7 (9v * sqrt(2)), minus the 2x 1.1v drop of the diodes in the bridge. so ~10.5v full load, and more than that otherwise. gives at least a 1.5v dropout, which is more than the 1.3v the MC7809CTG specifies. makes sense, sorry to ask an apparently silly question

and, some rough measurements by cutting and pasting in a photo editor show me that the terminal spacing is 5mm.
thanks,
-matt

 27th January 2013, 03:32 AM #2392 tofurky   diyAudio Member   Join Date: Jan 2013 using the method outlined at How to Calculate Capacitors for a Bridge Rectifier | eHow.com peak current: .2a (guess) .2a * 5 = 1a (?) peak voltage: 9vac * sqrt(2) = 12.7vac bridge drop: 12.7v-1.1v = 11.6v times freq: 11.6v * 60hz = 696vhz 1a/696vhz = 0.001437f = 1437uf (vs 2200uF)
ClaveFremen
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Milan, Italy
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 Originally Posted by tofurky i read that even though PR9372 2.2kohm is on the BOM, 2.4kohm is actually the correct value?
The corrrect value is 2.4K, PRP were indicated as 2.2K because they were not available as 2.4K.
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 30th January 2013, 06:32 AM #2394 nightcap   diyAudio Member     Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pacific shores Just getting started Having read this forum 'til my eyes bled and brain hurt, it's finally time to embark on assembly of my first mini 2496 DAC (AK4396 from Zoe Tsang). A few questions if I may? 1. For those who installed inductors at L1, L2 what value inductance did you choose? For those who avoided inductors altogether, did you feel justified in the end? 2. Did many here install larger value caps at C38, C39? (My board states 220uf, but others are marked 330uf. Anyone use 470uf or larger?) 3. Also caps at other points in the circuit? (e.g., C30, C35?) 4. Anyone use stealth/schottky diodes in diy-bridges and notice a difference? Thanks. nightcap
 1st February 2013, 08:43 AM #2395 atupi   diyAudio Member   Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bucharest 1. i used 47uH 2.78xx reg do not like big caps on output (use <470uf) 3.BOM is enough 4. no I made a small add-on shunt stabilizer for the LPF opamp and obtained a huge improvement on voice presence, soundstage and details. (Regulator Design v1.3 post #7) __________________ Rega RP-1/Simplistic RIAA by Salas/ DCB1 clone/ MyRef Fremen Edition/FC-100/ XTZ 99.26 MkII speakers
 1st February 2013, 10:24 AM #2396 nightcap   diyAudio Member     Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pacific shores Thanks mate. What size caps did you install that are less than 470uf? Interesting shunt reg. Might try that later, following successful basic kit assembly, as a hot-rod tweak.
 1st February 2013, 04:22 PM #2397 Black Stuart   diyAudio Member   Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aveyron atupi, why did you use 47uH when I saw 1.5uH reccomended. Could you pleaase post some photos of this shunt stabalizer - it would be appreciated. Stuart __________________ Black Stuart
atupi
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Bucharest
@nightcap-used 220uf but remove it after installed a separate reg for LPF opamp.
See a picture of my reg (both rails).
In the second picture i marked how i detached de positive rail from the remaining MC7812.
If anyone interested i can share de pcb layout, no big deal. Tried to obtain a pcb as small as possible.
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 2nd February 2013, 09:41 AM #2399 Black Stuart   diyAudio Member   Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aveyron Hi Atupi, thanks for the photos - photos = understanding without language problems. It's time we who live in the EU demand that Esperanto be taught in all EU schools along with our national languages result - no communication problems on forums or when travelling or working in each others countries but bad news for lawyers/interpreters and scam artists. Atupi - it would be good to see a PCB layout but for those who don't want to go this route would a discrete op-amp be another simpler answer? Re. these inductors - it would be good to see Dario's and Erin's and others opinions on this issue. Ie. how important are they to performance of the DAC. __________________ Black Stuart
hotiron
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Aberdeen Scotland
Bypassed CS8416 with TE7022

Running at 24bit 96Khz sounds way better.
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