SAA7210 instead of SAA7010

Maurizio · 14th June 2010, 10:09 AM

Anyone know if is possible to update the SAA7010 to SAA7210..?

Thanks.

amc184 · 14th June 2010, 10:16 AM

No, you can't just swap the two. They aren't functionally equivalent.

Maurizio · 14th June 2010, 10:29 AM

Ok...

i've a philips CD104 that use the SAA7010...but it have an old i2s..left and right channel..

I would like to use it with with my dac with the ACTUAL I2S system..do you know if is possible to do soemthing liek this..convert the the I2s from SAA7010 to the one from SAA7210 for example?

Thanks for you help.

Maurizio.

amc184 · 14th June 2010, 10:52 AM

Quote:

but it have an old i2s

There is no such thing as 'old I2S'. I2S is a strictly defined digital audio format, anything slightly different is not I2S.

The older players based on the SAA70x0 chipset don't use I2S, nor anything resembling I2S. Personally, I have been working on a device to replace a SAA7030 and convert the output of the SAA7000 into I2S, but it's not finished yet (see attached picture).

The easiest thing for you to do is get a newer player that does have a SAA7210, and hence does use I2S.

Maurizio · 14th June 2010, 12:18 PM

Very nice..

Sorry..i usen't the right definitions about..i know that tda1541 accept signals from 7010 also..changing operrating modes..right?

Did you tested your converter? When do you think will be available?

Thanks again.

Maurizio.

amc184 · 14th June 2010, 01:33 PM

Quote:

i know that tda1541 accept signals from 7010 also

Yes. The TDA1540, TDA1541 and TDA1541A are the only ICs that I know of that are compatible with the SAA70x0 chipset.

Quote:

Did you tested your converter? When do you think will be available?

No, and I don't know yet. I have a few projects on the go right now, and most of them are more interesting that that one ....

My advice is to get a player that uses a SAA7210 or SAA7310, there is a lot of them out there.

oshifis · 12:29 PM

I succesfully connected a TDA1541A to an SAA7000 (replacing 2 x TDA1540P) Also removed SAA7030 to get Non-OS mode. There is no I2S capability in SAA70xx chips, but the TDA1541A is able to work in simultaneous mode, the output mode of the SAA7000/7030 chips.

The SAA7010 is the demodulator, it must be followed by the SAA7020 error corrector, then the SAA7000 interpolating and muting circuit, and optionally the SAA7030 digital filter that provides 4x OS.

Maurizio · 16th June 2010, 06:18 PM

Thanks for your reply.

I would like to do this on a philips CD 104.

Do you have any scheme to send me?

The two 1541 are both in parallel?

Did you used a Dem Reclock circuit also?

THanks again for your reply.

Maurizio.

rfbrw · 16th June 2010, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurizio

Thanks for your reply.

I would like to do this on a philips CD 104.

Do you have any scheme to send me?

The two 1541 are both in parallel?

Did you used a Dem Reclock circuit also?

THanks again for your reply.

Maurizio.

You only need 1 TDA1541

Maurizio · 16th June 2010, 08:48 PM

OK..
But the cd104 have two 1540...i would like to install two 1541..

Thanks

14th June 2010, 10:09 AM	#1
Maurizio diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Italy	SAA7210 instead of SAA7010 Anyone know if is possible to update the SAA7010 to SAA7210..? Thanks.

16th June 2010, 12:23 PM	#7
oshifis diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Budapest, Hungary	I succesfully connected a TDA1541A to an SAA7000 (replacing 2 x TDA1540P) Also removed SAA7030 to get Non-OS mode. There is no I2S capability in SAA70xx chips, but the TDA1541A is able to work in simultaneous mode, the output mode of the SAA7000/7030 chips. The SAA7010 is the demodulator, it must be followed by the SAA7020 error corrector, then the SAA7000 interpolating and muting circuit, and optionally the SAA7030 digital filter that provides 4x OS. Last edited by oshifis; 16th June 2010 at 12:29 PM.

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14th June 2010, 10:16 AM	#2
amc184 diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Christchurch	No, you can't just swap the two. They aren't functionally equivalent.

14th June 2010, 10:29 AM	#3
Maurizio diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Italy	Ok... i've a philips CD104 that use the SAA7010...but it have an old i2s..left and right channel.. I would like to use it with with my dac with the ACTUAL I2S system..do you know if is possible to do soemthing liek this..convert the the I2s from SAA7010 to the one from SAA7210 for example? Thanks for you help. Maurizio.

14th June 2010, 12:18 PM	#5
Maurizio diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Italy	Very nice.. Sorry..i usen't the right definitions about..i know that tda1541 accept signals from 7010 also..changing operrating modes..right? Did you tested your converter? When do you think will be available? Thanks again. Maurizio.

16th June 2010, 06:18 PM	#8
Maurizio diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Italy	Thanks for your reply. I would like to do this on a philips CD 104. Do you have any scheme to send me? The two 1541 are both in parallel? Did you used a Dem Reclock circuit also? THanks again for your reply. Maurizio.

16th June 2010, 08:48 PM	#10
Maurizio diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Italy	OK.. But the cd104 have two 1540...i would like to install two 1541.. Thanks

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