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Old 29th January 2010, 02:33 PM   #2001
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@data:

Here did I find it:

Line Input Transformer

There is not much more information.
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Old 29th January 2010, 02:50 PM   #2002
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"CMLI-10/600 10K:600 +21dBu Pro to consumer HiFi. Leads"

That's it?

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Old 29th January 2010, 07:01 PM   #2003
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I know this thread focus at output trannies at this moment but I still would like to share my impressions of four different opamps in the output stage.

This is my impressions graded from best to worst.

1. opa2107 revealing details and distinct impact in the lower regions. Great imaging and voices sounds natural and smooth. This is the overall winner of the four.

2. lm4562 overall good performance but a bit "shouty" in midrange and not that airy and detailed as the opa 2107 in the heights. Nice lower bass and midbass.
Sounds nice or perhaps as good or slightly better than the opa2107 in plain acoustical music.

3. NE5532. This is the opamp that the dac are delivered with. It sounds quite ok but there is some lack of details in the heights and a quite boring sound in the mid-range. Can't put my finger on it but there is a bit fatigue feeling when listening to it.

4. opa2134 Very disappointed to this opamp. I've heard quite good about this one but one thing is for sure: this is not my personal flavor. It sounds dark, dull and bass is indistinct and sloppy.


Have anyone tried the AD8066? That would probably be my next try.

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Old 29th January 2010, 08:02 PM   #2004
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Just ordered the Cinemag CMOB-2H's so hopefully l dom't have to wait weeks for them
McCrackers , it'll be interesting to see how your transformers compare .

Data, yeah l could'nt find much at all re the 10k stuff , just the lead info ,
are your Cinemags shielded , and if not would it be worthwhile isolating/shielding them?

Those tumura's are supposed to be nice too hey


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Old 29th January 2010, 08:06 PM   #2005
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Earlier this week I placed an order for the CMOB-2H. I pored over the CMOB/CMOQ data sheets and the only real difference I could see was the phase angle graphs looked a lot better on the CMOB. I'm also skeptical of any audible difference of phase, but since the CMOB was slightly cheaper too I went that direction. When I've received them and hooked them up I'll report back.


Looking forward to see what you think of them ...hopefully you don't have to wait too long

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Old 29th January 2010, 08:08 PM   #2006
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hi franz,

then i got you wrong, sorry!

chris

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pic of my finished dac:
ill only change the digital input to spdif... :P
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xTr3Me , what case is that you have used ? looks nice

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Old 29th January 2010, 08:17 PM   #2007
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Hay Ken.
Not shielded and I haven't noticed any issues in this regard.

I have never heard the Tamara's.
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Old 29th January 2010, 09:20 PM   #2008
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Help Please! I'm hoping someone can sanity check my plans for wiring up my IEC connector, R-core (R26-34) and DAC as I'm pretty sure I've got it wrong. I haven't been able to find a good guide for the r-core (plenty for default toroids).

The advice I was provided from diyclub regarding the r-core:
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the R26-4 have two group of 0-15v and two group of 0-9V wiring, just connect the two 0-15V in series then you wiring is look like 15 0-15 0, then connect one of the 15V wiring to you DAC 13V, the 0-15 wiring to 0, and then the remain wiring to other 13V,
and about the 9V just you one of the 0-9V
I don't really understand the part about connecting the two 0-15V in series then wiring 15 0-15 0 (or does this mean the 0-15 is actually a blue and grey connected together into the 0V?)

Current Layout
IEC
E - earth?
L - live?
N - neutral?

R-core
PRIMARY
Red (dot)
->115V
Yellow
Green (dot)
->115V
Orange

SECONDARY
2 x Brown (9V)
2 x Black (9V)
2 x Grey (15V)
2 x Blue (15V)

EARTH
1 x Yellow/Green

Proposed setup
PRIMARY
* Chassis earth -> IEC Earth
* 1 x Red (dot) -> IEC Live
* 1 x Yellow -> 1 x Green (dot) (to obtain series 230V for Australia)
* 1 x Orange -> IEC Neutral

SECONDARY
* 1 x Grey -> DAC 13V
* 1 x Blue -> DAC 0V
* 1 x Grey -> DAC 13V
* 1 x Brown -> DAC 9V
* 1 x Black -> DAC 0V

EARTH
* R-core yellow/green earth -> Chassis ground

I'm not sure about the 0V connections to the DAC - another poster from stereo.net suggested these needed to be connected to ground

Thanks,
Michael.
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Old 29th January 2010, 10:40 PM   #2009
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That was me, but in that description it looks like you have no '0' taps coming from that transformer.

R-core

SECONDARY
2 x Brown (9V)
2 x Black (9V)
2 x Grey (15V)
2 x Blue (15V)


See by what you posted it looks like you only have active secondaries (with voltage), and no '0' taps

I'm very confused?
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Old 29th January 2010, 11:19 PM   #2010
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does this mean the 0-15 is actually a blue and grey connected together into the 0V?)
Yes!

But then you have to measure that the remaining blue and grey make 30 V AC on them. If not connect the other one of the blues to the grey one.
Then the two that make 30V you connect to the two 13V connections and the two you already put together you put on the 0V connection.
For the 9V you either take the two brown wires or the two black ones.
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