EL166 MTM ML-TL

planet10 · 7th November 2010, 06:58 AM

Got the pair playing in my office today.

Woden Design's Twin EL166 ML-TL (with my own variations). Executed as an MTM with an FF85KeN. We started this one before FF85 was discontinued, you could use your favorite mid-tweeter -- i think Alpair 6M should be a good candidate -- or a tweeter of your choice.

Lots of good well controlled bass. Even thou XO work is still at early stage, i am quite happy with them.

dave

sfreak · 19th December 2010, 12:57 AM

Nice looking speakers Dave. What order crossover are you using for the drivers?

italynstylion · 19th December 2010, 01:58 PM

I forgot to post up a few months back when I did a similar set. I think mine were based on the first set of plans you guys had released. The bass is quite surprising and indeed very well controlled. I paired mine with the ERT26 tweeter from CSS as well. Simply stunning sound from an extremely low amount spent in drivers.

planet10 · 20th December 2010, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfreak

Nice looking speakers Dave. What order crossover are you using for the drivers?

1st order series.

dave

jamikl · 9th May 2011, 12:25 AM

Bringing this one up again. I had been working on this idea and did not realise this thread existed. I was thinking of using two EL166 with an EL70 in a fast system but there would be quite a high sensitivity mismatch. What other 3" _ 4" driver or even slightly larger would match the sensitivity of two EL166 in parallel and still go all the way to the top with good quality sound? I was thinking of a much lower crossover than you have probably used here. It might need to be able to handle a bit more power than the little fostex also.
Thanks for any input,
jamikl

planet10 · 9th May 2011, 03:24 AM

EL70 is probably about the right sensitivity if you have a SS amp & XO at or about the baffle step frequency.

dave

jamikl · 05:55 AM

Thanks for that Dave. I was thinking about trying tubes for a change but with all the different types of speakers I fancy I think it will be back to SS for me. Maybe a nice lower powered Class A or something from Nelson.

How is the sound of the EL166 say up to about 300Hz or is there something else about the same size I should be looking at? This could suit a shape similar to the poormans Strad

jamikl

zman01 · 10th May 2011, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by italynstylion

I forgot to post up a few months back when I did a similar set. I think mine were based on the first set of plans you guys had released. The bass is quite surprising and indeed very well controlled. I paired mine with the ERT26 tweeter from CSS as well. Simply stunning sound from an extremely low amount spent in drivers.

They look handsome!

What type of music have you tried on these?

-Zia

keith_correa · 15th May 2011, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by italynstylion

I forgot to post up a few months back when I did a similar set. I think mine were based on the first set of plans you guys had released. The bass is quite surprising and indeed very well controlled. I paired mine with the ERT26 tweeter from CSS as well. Simply stunning sound from an extremely low amount spent in drivers.

Could you please post the x-over for these?

italynstylion · 17th May 2011, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keith_correa

Could you please post the x-over for these?

I'll have to look for it and also ask the person who designed it if it's ok to be posted. Remind me with a PM if I forget.

7th November 2010, 06:58 AM	#1
planet10 frugal-phile(tm) diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III Blog Entries: 5	EL166 MTM ML-TL Got the pair playing in my office today. Woden Design's Twin EL166 ML-TL (with my own variations). Executed as an MTM with an FF85KeN. We started this one before FF85 was discontinued, you could use your favorite mid-tweeter -- i think Alpair 6M should be a good candidate -- or a tweeter of your choice. Lots of good well controlled bass. Even thou XO work is still at early stage, i am quite happy with them. dave __________________ community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA

19th December 2010, 12:57 AM	#2
sfreak diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tasmania, Australia	Nice looking speakers Dave. What order crossover are you using for the drivers? __________________ Darcher - Audio Visual - Computers

19th December 2010, 01:58 PM	#3
italynstylion diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dallas, Tx.	I forgot to post up a few months back when I did a similar set. I think mine were based on the first set of plans you guys had released. The bass is quite surprising and indeed very well controlled. I paired mine with the ERT26 tweeter from CSS as well. Simply stunning sound from an extremely low amount spent in drivers. __________________ www.StereoClarity.com

9th May 2011, 03:24 AM	#6
planet10 frugal-phile(tm) diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III Blog Entries: 5	EL70 is probably about the right sensitivity if you have a SS amp & XO at or about the baffle step frequency. dave __________________ community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA

9th May 2011, 05:52 AM	#7
jamikl diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne	Thanks for that Dave. I was thinking about trying tubes for a change but with all the different types of speakers I fancy I think it will be back to SS for me. Maybe a nice lower powered Class A or something from Nelson. How is the sound of the EL166 say up to about 300Hz or is there something else about the same size I should be looking at? This could suit a shape similar to the poormans Strad jamikl Last edited by jamikl; 9th May 2011 at 05:55 AM.

9th May 2011, 12:25 AM	#5
jamikl diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne	Bringing this one up again. I had been working on this idea and did not realise this thread existed. I was thinking of using two EL166 with an EL70 in a fast system but there would be quite a high sensitivity mismatch. What other 3" _ 4" driver or even slightly larger would match the sensitivity of two EL166 in parallel and still go all the way to the top with good quality sound? I was thinking of a much lower crossover than you have probably used here. It might need to be able to handle a bit more power than the little fostex also. Thanks for any input, jamikl

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